From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from smtp.kernel.org (aws-us-west-2-korg-mail-1.web.codeaurora.org [10.30.226.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 836DB13B59B for ; Mon, 15 Jul 2024 08:53:40 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1721033620; cv=none; b=C6UtJgYqPDa42r9i76ujdiZfI7Nt//2PltrUn/VqocYCAtHpg3HHNON9b/TqtMgouUBZaRJ04Itshi3VrZ1T13quOmOk9WhdoKXoOMmHZHXjKHXuWLSohicpNVt6dvQj11Y6jZTygqpy2t6YB1tFn2NA2k6WLvcyhc1lGK4DAEE= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1721033620; c=relaxed/simple; bh=9KyACKOSJvJj5UYAW5Eh7wWqSaOKe90GICU+Y3BZPKc=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=FreRBd+ORRggMAHsRqqXbPd2bbOrcJjLe0LgXQrzW5kDyGL3WkOwhwgNEcaybIzKAGA4JGcpoqh9GlJghSY84XJUf0z/dc/8JfI1E8JAspccV3bkmAoH88X+SpW6DWRTLhw67+aRpEnPvpuE3hjwDougZcMR5Q2cOH6gqAY2Bqg= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b=SXL9+Eki; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b="SXL9+Eki" Received: by smtp.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 13894C32782; Mon, 15 Jul 2024 08:53:38 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kernel.org; s=k20201202; t=1721033620; bh=9KyACKOSJvJj5UYAW5Eh7wWqSaOKe90GICU+Y3BZPKc=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=SXL9+Eki/gWHHasMyV9gYdQ2gfX1CPWftTBPOwuaCKd8ewMnWPdGimmpNHTbgt6S+ CV1D+N5SSgSI00m3N9pMc5ohcWSg2nmEwtaMorviZVmiHqluUT7RFPL/MKechvM/Av ELAXfNRQYipZK/kU/QjEn5N6ZyUevj3uW2EhYFGf2Uv/yQ6e42v1SnnIBIdZ3OIty7 26jh/zZrdZ9BTtw2nrT8kmBkMoIwwMiKSpak/O5vmjOHzDB3pY6OBXmdKtsiuGHtLs ip7ypZxNoDlfEtxwc4KCG2tQLl4nXQvhodSzs2IsoR5BxopXvWY/50xJk9Vd4k6Roq H85XG3OTOhpsg== Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2024 10:53:36 +0200 From: Mauro Carvalho Chehab To: Greg KH Cc: Linus Torvalds , James Bottomley , Sasha Levin , ksummit@lists.linux.dev Subject: Re: Proposal: Enhancing Commit Tagging for Stable Kernel Branches Message-ID: <20240715105326.77fa37de@foz.lan> In-Reply-To: <2024071528-cahoots-reacquire-9eab@gregkh> References: <0e6c7c8ed259dcb50631c6fdc3d86d3080bdc6f3.camel@HansenPartnership.com> <2024071528-cahoots-reacquire-9eab@gregkh> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 4.3.0 (GTK 3.24.42; x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: ksummit@lists.linux.dev List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Em Mon, 15 Jul 2024 10:02:54 +0200 Greg KH escreveu: > On Sun, Jul 14, 2024 at 04:09:06PM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote: > > On Sun, 14 Jul 2024 at 16:06, James Bottomley > > wrote: > > > > > > But we know how to enforce a unified view of process: we document it in > > > Documentaion/process ... > > > > Hahhahhahaahh. > > > > Ahh, you're such a kidder, James. > > Yeah, and that's the issue here, we have whole subsystems and many many > maintainers and developers that do not follow this at all, hence our > need to pull into stable commits that only have a "Fixes:" tag on it. > > Now we can start running a bot on all submissions that says something > like the one that I have been doing for the USB subsystem for the past > few months, here's the text I use: > > - You have marked a patch with a "Fixes:" tag for a commit that is in an > older released kernel, yet you do not have a cc: stable line in the > signed-off-by area at all, which means that the patch will not be > applied to any older kernel releases. To properly fix this, please > follow the documented rules in the > Documentation/process/stable-kernel-rules.rst file for how to resolve > this. Perhaps the text should also briefly describe how to make the bot ignore it when there are good reasons for that. Something like: If the patch shall not be backported, please document it together with the rationale with: Cc: # reason goes here, and must be present > But I doubt everyone wants to see that polute their mailing lists :( As people learn about that, the number of such emails will reduce. Thanks, Mauro