From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from smtp.kernel.org (aws-us-west-2-korg-mail-1.web.codeaurora.org [10.30.226.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F23485FB9B for ; Wed, 12 Jun 2024 18:37:17 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1718217438; cv=none; b=AYgUnGxKbJ3aqXYEpWMsukdrrRBn2YN12asYDr12AhktQtm5C3IAAA62d5QgWh08nqD9IiQw2GxlpfcS790G2cAc8GCO8Zhtw0MJZGJAduz6XcXtaSdrgE+2G8IVLQubs2WvJXOxO1WFgzSXrDUNGNDxvawI0JqvKf3j/4LqD7E= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1718217438; c=relaxed/simple; bh=C+Fu9hUhY297cO9mg+pkHe/yvzfreZAL9OvQsQnBTKo=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:References:MIME-Version: Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To; b=HpwCRWgjqTFw4C43lI36unX9WQ2c1BpsX3mdLW2soxbZHCTCn8sK9zCMCAgcqkLzIA8Y2c68QYJQyxOu7Mclv0/NTAsZfXSK3wmODqCu/wRFiz6pwfz8rHP2t115jqAtmGIXlN50m4XkdfrX9GCr7+M3hb4+nRjY1fOO/qSDC8c= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b=VMKwYbEo; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b="VMKwYbEo" Received: by smtp.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C4A9AC116B1; Wed, 12 Jun 2024 18:37:16 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kernel.org; s=k20201202; t=1718217437; bh=C+Fu9hUhY297cO9mg+pkHe/yvzfreZAL9OvQsQnBTKo=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=VMKwYbEo5zNJVBqlp6r+uGTTD8U+gsHzzGQuxO7UUkiSSuQZJp4a6TGdanj6X9Myi M8GaQGxJjp8um7+dlFhDNGb9XHEDgeQOOElSOXnha5vghkeHTBB5vZ7JlD6qKF27nQ vAmfaiwsnxkeS9TW7dq1+Z4BUbf4QR1wgu3bHi2jGOesaaiVZ5i0gFc6uWFPrVzhu/ Hg+wEXPLykmB9+sMb+d1+Oe8CJBkqJidLpgvxGqAkc/WW2oEUu/8mlsvlW4hgi0OnR 1Q0Q7zQ/r624v3CI9UVhdWUrzb2fqiW7Y6RfccbBdNKGUTkLvroBBuTtgY1T9z/i1t RorlvSTySimNA== Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2024 21:37:12 +0300 From: Leon Romanovsky To: Steven Rostedt Cc: Thorsten Leemhuis , "ksummit@lists.linux.dev" Subject: Re: [TECH TOPIC] regressions: our workflows are the biggest enemy Message-ID: <20240612183712.GF4966@unreal> References: <5182e50a-3d13-4edc-8f2a-a024e0588177@leemhuis.info> <20240612112622.21bf7c89@rorschach.local.home> Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: ksummit@lists.linux.dev List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20240612112622.21bf7c89@rorschach.local.home> On Wed, Jun 12, 2024 at 11:26:22AM -0400, Steven Rostedt wrote: > On Wed, 12 Jun 2024 08:34:42 +0200 > Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: > > > The talk among others will describe why some workflow patterns are what > > frequently leads to regressions -- and why they are also a factor why > > some subsystems fix regression quickly, while others take weeks or > > months to resolve. > > The above looks more than a TECH TOPIC. If you have real numbers that > point out workflows that are an issue, I think this should be discussed > at Maintainers Summit, and perhaps we should start "encouraging" people > to change their workflows. This topic is very interesting to whole Linux kernel community, and I think it should be presented in the main track and not limited to Maintainers Summit. Especially if you want "to encourage people to change their workflows". Thanks