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On Fri, 10 Nov 2023 11:24:19 -0600 Rob Herring wrote:
> I think that's already possible in lei. So it comes down to who runs
> the IMAP server and where. If localhost works for you, then it should
> just be a matter of configuring lei. Though I've not tried any of this
> part of lei myself.

Nod, I've been trying to direct some newcomers towards lei for
subscribing to "manageable portions" of netdev. It's not hard,
but for folks from outside its a bit uncomfortable, and they
get stuck on details.

> And I think there's folks that just want mail delivered to their inbox
> with SMTP regardless of what lore/b4/lei can do.

I actually think that POP3 can do great things.

I know multiple people who don't even work on the kernel(!) but for
whatever reason get warm and fuzzy feelings from netdev getting
dumped into a folder in their gmail. A folder they never open.

If the SMTP gets "accidentally" unsubscribed every now and then
I'm pretty sure they'd happily switch to fetching a POP. 
IDK how representative the people I'm thinking of are, tho.