From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from smtp.kernel.org (aws-us-west-2-korg-mail-1.web.codeaurora.org [10.30.226.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7B7591B278; Tue, 24 Oct 2023 12:36:50 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=none Received: by smtp.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0E58EC433C8; Tue, 24 Oct 2023 12:36:48 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2023 08:36:47 -0400 From: Steven Rostedt To: Laurent Pinchart Cc: Geert Uytterhoeven , NeilBrown , Andrew Morton , Dan Carpenter , ksummit@lists.linux.dev, outreachy@lists.linux.dev, kernel-janitors@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: KTODO automated TODO lists Message-ID: <20231024083647.6ca474aa@gandalf.local.home> In-Reply-To: <20231024072506.GC31956@pendragon.ideasonboard.com> References: <369bc919-1a1d-4f37-9cc9-742a86a41282@kadam.mountain> <20231023114949.34fc967988c354547f79c4e7@linux-foundation.org> <169809755184.20306.3698252725424588550@noble.neil.brown.name> <20231024072506.GC31956@pendragon.ideasonboard.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.19.1 (GTK+ 2.24.33; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: ksummit@lists.linux.dev List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Tue, 24 Oct 2023 10:25:06 +0300 Laurent Pinchart wrote: > I've refrained from replying to this thread so far, as it seemed to be a > caricature of a bikeshedding discussion, but for what it's worth, I > often find myself in the opposite situation when I'm annoyed that > someone trimmed too much of the discussion in their replies. After hitting "page down" 3 or 4 times and seeing only quoted text, I then stop and just ignore the email. Yes, there's been emails I purposely ignored because of this that had asked me to respond near the end. Oh well. Then they ask, "why didn't you respond?" pointing out the email I was to respond to. And I would reply, "I never saw the request because of too much quoted text". > > Yes, replying to a 3000-lines patches with a full quote ana d a > Reviewed-by tag at the very bottom, without any other comment, is > annoying. On the other hand, trimming everything but the few lines to > which you reply means that it gets much more annoying to jump in the > discussion in the middle of a mail thread. There's a difference between > trimming unrelated parts, and removing related content that happens not > to be the direct subject of a particular reply. I just replied to an email yesterday that cut too much off, and I had to make a note about that, and put things back in. What's worse, is if you are having a technical debate with someone, and they trim out everything that might go against their argument, but leave anything that supports their argument. I've seen that happen quite a bit. I should write a book called "The art of trimming". ;-) -- Steve