From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from smtp.kernel.org (aws-us-west-2-korg-mail-1.web.codeaurora.org [10.30.226.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D5AF014281; Mon, 23 Oct 2023 19:41:49 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b="PW2DULXf" Received: by smtp.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4579AC433C8; Mon, 23 Oct 2023 19:41:49 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kernel.org; s=k20201202; t=1698090109; bh=OlH4XjprJoV3SDdpbTy99xlKsXNxkPszOjj1otladfI=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=PW2DULXfgacuAqKWGrEKpODTf8CprrVatOu13kJyFkzMUoARbu9A+y6CWacngLpvc wfi2GT/VnVtRyQQ0U93UmFJNa5jZ/RYd6cbrZCHpZ9IA3vs4tS20U7/K+zyGhwSxAz 4KMP3EbRT++3But83IqEq4f1wsIeh5BjJUCEZd8FlPhXcc9OtDkKze41Zl9j/2RFK+ W5MRRq4L3+1GF+GnOBk5thIyOM0hIWTZeMqKcsf+la92A1+cvMberTtMk1CDy21rRx 8lAvd/qZ0LVmKHgYYl3Nz/mRU/+cgQvsIYQOXhiT+K6v3wM24eDhpZBJ4F453cutW0 FWWf8hL1Dalfg== Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2023 15:41:48 -0400 From: Konstantin Ryabitsev To: Linus Torvalds Cc: Andrew Morton , Dan Carpenter , ksummit@lists.linux.dev, outreachy@lists.linux.dev, kernel-janitors@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: KTODO automated TODO lists Message-ID: <20231023-righteous-peridot-parakeet-1bbda0@meerkat> References: <369bc919-1a1d-4f37-9cc9-742a86a41282@kadam.mountain> <20231023114949.34fc967988c354547f79c4e7@linux-foundation.org> Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: ksummit@lists.linux.dev List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: On Mon, Oct 23, 2023 at 08:55:56AM -1000, Linus Torvalds wrote: > > Well here's a task: write a bot which follows the mailing lists and > > sends people nastygrams if one of their emails is more than 95%(?) > > quoted text. > > I think that might be better off as a spam filter rule. > > Don't make it some after-the-fact "trawl the lists". Just make it a > bounce with a "you quoted too much". Same as the html avoidance. I know people aren't being very serious, but automating this away either aggressively (reject as spam) or passive-agressively (whine at poster) will run into rare but valid corner cases. For example, we have no way of distinguishing between "this person quoted too much from previous message" and "this person posted a large but relevant quote from docs or another conversation," and so we will likely punish/annoy the innocent. It's better to treat this as a mentoring opportunity and send an off-list reply with "please trim your quotes" and maybe a link to https://people.kernel.org/tglx/notes-about-netiquette If it helps, I can add a mailing list etiquette page on subspace.kernel.org, so it's easier to find. -K