From: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
To: Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@linaro.org>
Cc: Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>,
Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>,
Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>,
Luis Chamberlain <mcgrof@kernel.org>,
Josef Bacik <josef@toxicpanda.com>,
ksummit@lists.linux.dev, Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>,
Song Liu <song@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [MAINTAINERS SUMMIT] Maintainer burnout
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2023 08:09:49 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230818080949.7b17b0d5@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACRpkdbfSzNwkwnew-5YN4j4yBjgh=fCiaKdPmiRbViTdOcXkw@mail.gmail.com>
On Fri, 18 Aug 2023 15:55:11 +0200 Linus Walleij wrote:
> > We're trying to encourage active developers to be code reviewers as well
> > via positive/negative scores:
> > https://lore.kernel.org/bpf/ZJx8sBW%2FQPOBswNF@google.com/
> >
> > It doesn't help much yet. All incoming kernel contributors assume
> > that it's a maintainer's job to do code reviews.
> > Developers just send patches and wait. It doesn't occur to them that
> > reviewing other patches will help them land their own.
>
> The DRI/DRM community has group maintainership that works a little
> bit.
> Essentially it boils down to ask people to review your stuff and you
> will review and also merge their stuff in return.
> Sometimes this works.
> Especially if you are a circle of acquaintances working full
> time on similar things, yay! So much support.
> When you are a sporadic contributor it doesn't work as well.
> Because you cannot always find some matching contribution to
> review and you feel like begging.
> So different solutions for different contributors may be needed.
I keep bringing this up at the TAB meetings and after the last
maintainer summit to Linus and Ted but I feel like information
sharing and community building across subsystem is missing.
I was wondering last time if we can do a run of short sessions
where a few volunteers talk about their subsystems? Let's say
10min talking about
- current process subsystem uses
- "realities" / day to day challenges / problems
- how the subsystem is evolving the process
We keep trying various things in our neck of the woods, I'm can
talk about net, anyone else thinks this would be useful and wants
to volunteer?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-08-18 15:09 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-08-16 18:08 Josef Bacik
2023-08-16 20:14 ` Luis Chamberlain
2023-08-17 9:39 ` Laurent Pinchart
2023-08-17 12:36 ` Andrew Lunn
2023-08-17 15:19 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-08-17 23:54 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2023-08-18 13:55 ` Linus Walleij
2023-08-18 15:09 ` Jakub Kicinski [this message]
2023-08-18 17:07 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-08-19 6:45 ` Leon Romanovsky
2023-08-21 15:35 ` Laurent Pinchart
2023-08-22 7:41 ` Jiri Kosina
2023-08-22 9:05 ` Hannes Reinecke
2023-08-22 10:13 ` Leon Romanovsky
2023-08-22 11:25 ` Laurent Pinchart
2023-08-21 19:23 ` Vegard Nossum
2023-08-22 4:07 ` Dave Airlie
2023-08-22 9:46 ` Jan Kara
2023-08-22 10:10 ` Christian Brauner
2023-08-22 10:20 ` Jan Kara
2023-08-22 11:29 ` Laurent Pinchart
2023-08-22 11:05 ` Leon Romanovsky
2023-08-22 11:32 ` Laurent Pinchart
2023-08-22 13:47 ` Leon Romanovsky
2023-08-22 13:30 ` Jan Kara
2023-08-29 12:54 ` Steven Rostedt
2023-09-13 9:02 ` Dan Carpenter
2023-08-21 8:50 ` Daniel Vetter
2023-08-21 15:18 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-08-22 4:12 ` Dave Airlie
2023-08-18 15:26 ` Laurent Pinchart
2023-08-18 15:40 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2023-08-18 18:36 ` Mark Brown
2023-08-21 16:13 ` Laurent Pinchart
2023-08-18 16:10 ` Mark Brown
2023-08-21 16:04 ` Laurent Pinchart
2023-08-24 21:30 ` Jonathan Cameron
2023-08-25 7:05 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-08-17 12:00 ` Jani Nikula
2023-08-17 12:17 ` Mark Brown
2023-08-17 12:42 ` Laurent Pinchart
2023-08-17 13:56 ` Miguel Ojeda
2023-08-17 15:03 ` Laurent Pinchart
2023-08-17 17:41 ` Miguel Ojeda
2023-08-18 15:30 ` Laurent Pinchart
2023-08-18 16:23 ` Mark Brown
2023-08-18 17:17 ` Laurent Pinchart
2023-08-18 18:00 ` Mark Brown
2023-08-17 14:46 ` Mark Brown
2023-08-17 14:22 ` Steven Rostedt
2023-08-17 15:31 ` Jani Nikula
2023-08-17 14:46 ` Steven Rostedt
2023-08-17 15:33 ` Josef Bacik
2023-08-17 17:10 ` Rodrigo Vivi
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