From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from smtp.kernel.org (aws-us-west-2-korg-mail-1.web.codeaurora.org [10.30.226.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E80F710957 for ; Wed, 16 Aug 2023 14:57:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: by smtp.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 667D5C433C7; Wed, 16 Aug 2023 14:57:05 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=linuxfoundation.org; s=korg; t=1692197825; bh=w43yVFFAAQoSaKI3sty5WQQz1kLBbF2gNWEKwNyS0oY=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=s4A1DFSRcv3H88Ve3UPLlta/iG9qwbIs1LXq8XvrmiFiMlG8xp7ool/GPl7Z3g+Bw Y1ZQln2UkGVo9myYAOCXyTBixaBhHOnTzfVXZ12dwONL9W5GuxzR0ecV0ZAtaZ/+UT gCk3qzVpbaAPxuDW2e05j+UU+kpHZn/2GH5IUgAU= Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2023 16:57:03 +0200 From: Greg KH To: Jiri Kosina Cc: Steven Rostedt , Vegard Nossum , ksummit@lists.linux.dev Subject: Re: [MAINTAINERS SUMMIT] Handling of embargoed security issues -- security@korg vs. linux-distros@ Message-ID: <2023081645-brush-oblivion-464d@gregkh> References: <658e739b-c164-c360-d6a3-eb4fb15ae02e@oracle.com> <2023081515-lake-spotty-6a3a@gregkh> <20230815084253.7091083e@gandalf.local.home> <2023081540-vindicate-caterer-33c6@gregkh> Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: ksummit@lists.linux.dev List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: On Wed, Aug 16, 2023 at 12:17:36AM +0200, Jiri Kosina wrote: > On Tue, 15 Aug 2023, Greg KH wrote: > > > Why are they not just doing what the huge majority of Linux users doing > > and taking the "feed of known issues that resolve problems before they > > are public knowledge" that we provide today for free to them? Because > > they somehow think that knowing a specific single bugfix is more special > > than all of those other bugfixes, which honestly, is just loony. > > If you'd like me to turn this proposal into "What can we do to make sure > that most major distros are eventually basing their kernels on -stable" > discussion, I'd be happy to do that, but I believe this has been discussed > quite extensively already. It has, and note that no one in the room would be in a real position to solve the problem (Project Managers and VPs are not usually invited to the kernel summit.) Now that many laws are being passed to mandate this soon, I think the governments might solve this issue for us automatically :) thanks, greg k-h