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User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) Cc: ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org, Greg Kroah-Hartman , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, tech-board-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org, Chris Mason Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [Tech-board-discuss] [PATCH] CodingStyle: Inclusive Terminology X-BeenThere: ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2779056784297317699==" Errors-To: ksummit-discuss-bounces@lists.linuxfoundation.org Sender: "Ksummit-discuss" --===============2779056784297317699== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="zbGR4y+acU1DwHSi" Content-Disposition: inline --zbGR4y+acU1DwHSi Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Sat, Jul 04, 2020 at 01:02:51PM -0700, Dan Williams wrote: > +'blacklist'. Recommended replacements for 'slave' are: 'secondary', > +'subordinate', 'replica', 'responder', 'follower', 'proxy', or I'd second the suggestion of device as an option here. > +Of course it is around this point someone jumps in with an etymological > +argument about why people should not be offended. Etymological arguments > +do not scale. The scope and pace of Linux to reach new developers > +exceeds the ability of historical terminology defenders to describe "no, More generally etymological arguments are just not super relevant here anyway, the issues people have are around current perceptions rather than where things came from. > +not that connotation". The revelation of 2020 was that black voices were > +heard on a global scale and the Linux kernel project has done its small > +part to answer that call as it wants black voices, among all voices, in > +its developer community. This, especially the bit about "revelation of 2020", sounds a little off to me - I think it's that it's worryingly close to the frequently derided pattern where people recognise a problem that other people have been talking about for a while and treat it as something new. 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