From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C5F10295A for ; Mon, 8 Jul 2019 18:08:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 88523880 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 2019 18:08:15 +0000 (UTC) Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2019 14:08:13 -0400 From: Sasha Levin To: Greg KH Message-ID: <20190708180813.GQ10104@sasha-vm> References: <20190703013557.GQ11506@sasha-vm> <20190705164142.GC20625@sirena.org.uk> <20190705201231.GI10104@sasha-vm> <20190706003214.GE20625@sirena.org.uk> <20190708110208.GN10104@sasha-vm> <20190708123733.GC8576@sirena.org.uk> <102219fd-4ba0-e1ff-b2e3-9a0a43392c4c@roeck-us.net> <20190708151040.GB1548@kroah.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20190708151040.GB1548@kroah.com> Cc: ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [MAINTAINERS SUMMIT] stable kernel process automation and improvement List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , On Mon, Jul 08, 2019 at 05:10:40PM +0200, Greg KH wrote: >Well, I think the conversation will go just like it has in the past for >this issue: > "We need to have someone track regressions!" > "X said they would do it but they need to be paid, any company > willing to sponsor this?" > {crickets} > >We know we need this, we have at least one talented and capable person >to do the work, but no company is willing to step up and fund it :( Maybe I am not clear on the role of the LF here, but why can't we get the LF to self-fund a regression tracking project for the kernel? Getting funding for something like this from companies is difficult. It's hard to sell the value of something like this to managers even though to us it's obviously *critical* (see the KernelCI case for example), and even if a certain company secure funding, LF's method of spinning up projects and trying to get them funded individually just doesn't work. -- Thanks, Sasha