From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8975B27AB for ; Mon, 8 Jul 2019 15:06:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from out3-smtp.messagingengine.com (out3-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.27]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0F3A287F for ; Mon, 8 Jul 2019 15:06:45 +0000 (UTC) Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2019 17:06:41 +0200 From: Greg KH To: Mark Brown Message-ID: <20190708150641.GA1548@kroah.com> References: <20190703013557.GQ11506@sasha-vm> <20190705164142.GC20625@sirena.org.uk> <20190705201231.GI10104@sasha-vm> <20190706003214.GE20625@sirena.org.uk> <20190708110208.GN10104@sasha-vm> <20190708123733.GC8576@sirena.org.uk> <102219fd-4ba0-e1ff-b2e3-9a0a43392c4c@roeck-us.net> <20190708145045.GC12731@sirena.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20190708145045.GC12731@sirena.co.uk> Cc: ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [MAINTAINERS SUMMIT] stable kernel process automation and improvement List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , On Mon, Jul 08, 2019 at 03:50:45PM +0100, Mark Brown wrote: > On Mon, Jul 08, 2019 at 07:05:44AM -0700, Guenter Roeck wrote: > > On 7/8/19 5:37 AM, Mark Brown wrote: > > > > I'm not sure how many people will actually report problems they > > > experience upstream rather than just fixing things locally and > > > just moving on. The more code is the more likely it is that one > > > of the users will report things. > > > I for my part will most definitely report any such problems, since each > > regression in stable releases is used as argument against merging > > stable releases (even if the regression rate is negligible), and I am > > very interested in getting that regression rate as close to zero as > > possible. Reporting each and every regression is an essential part > > of that. > > Me too - but I'm pretty sure for example most of the product > teams I've worked with at consumer electronics companies would > never even consider it. Sweet, want me to come into those teams and give a presentation like I did a few months ago for one major company entitled "all the ways your kernel is insecure and trivial to break"? I'll be glad to do so :) thanks, greg k-h