From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 242031237 for ; Fri, 31 May 2019 02:14:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from outgoing.mit.edu (outgoing-auth-1.mit.edu [18.9.28.11]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 867A07D2 for ; Fri, 31 May 2019 02:14:24 +0000 (UTC) Date: Thu, 30 May 2019 22:14:21 -0400 From: "Theodore Ts'o" To: Shuah Khan Message-ID: <20190531021421.GA8123@mit.edu> References: <96c97a27-83a2-b86c-2880-984c9fa6d4b5@linuxfoundation.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <96c97a27-83a2-b86c-2880-984c9fa6d4b5@linuxfoundation.org> Cc: ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [MAINTAINERS SUMMIT] Talking code or talking in code! List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , On Thu, May 30, 2019 at 04:19:20PM -0600, Shuah Khan wrote: > We as a community talk code in emails. Do we talk in code at times? How > effective are we in communicating with each other? > > I would like to propose a topic to explore our communication styles to > get a better understanding of how effective we are. I am hoping, we > could become more productive, if we get some insight into whether or not > we talk in code while we talk code. > > We could do this by inviting Isabella Ferreira, PhD Student in Computer > Engineering, Polytechnique Montréal to tell us about Sentimine, > which is a plugin on top of the cregit platform focused on analyzing > communication in open source communities. It will include a short survey > focused on analyzing a few emails for clarity and perception. Hi Shuah, If the goal is to get Isabella's ideas more exposure, perhaps it would be better to ask if she would be willing to give a presentation at the more open Kernel Summit track during the LPC? It would appear that it's fairly early days for her work, from doing some web searching, the only thing I could really find was her 2019 Open Source Leadership Summit presentations (slides here[1]) and the more formal academic paper[2]. [1] https://events.linuxfoundation.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/OSS_Summit_Presentation.pdf [2] http://mcis.polymtl.ca/publications/2019/SEMotion_2019.pdf As near as I can tell the talk was not video recorded; which is a shame, since I wasn't able to pick up from the slide presentation the same kind of excitement that you clearly have over her work. I was also very confused about how cregit (which analyzes code) mentioned in the last two slides relates to the work described in the first 80% of the slide deck, which appears to be analyzing mailing list text. I'd also think that if the goal is to have a conversation about communication styles, having that discussion with a wider circle might be more productive. Or did you have something in mind about some decision that might get made at the Maintainer's Summit? - Ted