From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D99FA123B for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2018 12:16:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from relay3-d.mail.gandi.net (relay3-d.mail.gandi.net [217.70.183.195]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2BDDF7D5 for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2018 12:16:26 +0000 (UTC) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2018 13:16:22 +0100 From: Josh Triplett To: NeilBrown Message-ID: <20181024121622.GA10942@localhost> References: <20181020134908.GA32218@kroah.com> <87y3ar80ac.fsf@notabene.neil.brown.name> <20181021222608.GA24845@localhost> <875zxt919d.fsf@notabene.neil.brown.name> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <875zxt919d.fsf@notabene.neil.brown.name> Cc: Mishi Choudhary , Greg Kroah-Hartman , linux-kernel , ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] Call to Action Re: [PATCH 0/7] Code of Conduct: Fix some wording, and add an interpretation document List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 07:26:06AM +1100, NeilBrown wrote: > On Sun, Oct 21 2018, Josh Triplett wrote: > > > On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 08:20:11AM +1100, NeilBrown wrote: > >> I call on you, Greg: > >> - to abandon this divisive attempt to impose a "Code of Conduct" > >> - to revert 8a104f8b5867c68 > >> - to return to your core competence of building a great team around > >> a great kernel > >> > >> #Isupportreversion > >> > >> I call on the community to consider what *does* need to be said, about > >> conduct, to people outside the community and who have recently joined. > >> What is the document that you would have liked to have read as you were > >> starting out? It is all too long ago for me to remember clearly, and so > >> much has changed. > > > > The document I would have liked to have read when starting out is > > currently checked into the source tree in > > Documentation/process/code-of-conduct.rst . > > I'm curious - what would you have gained by reading that document? I would have then had rather less of a pervasive feeling of "if I make even a single mistake I get made an example of in ways that will feed people's quotes files for years to come". See https://hbr.org/2017/08/high-performing-teams-need-psychological-safety-heres-how-to-create-it for more on the benefits of that.