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Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2018 17:30:55 -0300
From: Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab+samsung@kernel.org>
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Em Wed, 10 Oct 2018 21:09:48 +0100
Alan Cox <gnomes@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> escreveu:

> On Wed, 10 Oct 2018 14:19:17 -0300
> Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab+samsung@kernel.org> wrote:
> 
> > Em Wed, 10 Oct 2018 16:53:08 +0100
> > Alan Cox <gnomes@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> escreveu:
> >   
> > > > -Maintainers have the right and responsibility to remove, edit, or reject
> > > > +Maintainers may remove, edit, or reject
> > > >  comments, commits, code, wiki edits, issues, and other contributions that are
> > > >  not aligned to this Code of Conduct, or to ban temporarily or permanently any
> > > >  contributor for other behaviors that they deem inappropriate, threatening,
> > > > 
> > > > The previous text seems too much legal for my taste.
> > > >       
> > > 
> > > That is just as confusing. Maintainers have the right to remove, edit,
> > > reject commits that *are* aligned with the code as well.    
> > 
> > Good point. Yeah, a maintainer can do whatever he thinks it is 
> > appropriate for a patch - even when it follows the CoC.
> >   
> > > So what exactly is the point here ?    
> > 
> > The point is "responsibility" - that sounds like it is bounding a legal
> > duty to a maintainer.  
> 
> If you remove the responsibility aspect you might as well remove the
> entire clause. It doesn't say anything as it's simply a subset of what
> maintainers do anyway.
> 
> So how about
> 
> "Maintainers should remove, edit or reject..."
> 
> that keeps the sense that there should be pressure against abusive
> behaviour.

Works for me.

> except of course someone will attach a zero day exploit and fix to a
> coc-violating rant and then you are a bit stuffed 8)

:-)

Thanks,
Mauro