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From: Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab+samsung@kernel.org>
To: Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org>
Cc: ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] New CoC and Brendan Eich
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2018 15:28:11 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20181010152811.073c5ca8@coco.lan> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20181010172111.GA17483@localhost>

Em Wed, 10 Oct 2018 10:21:11 -0700
Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org> escreveu:

> On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 10:57:54AM -0300, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
> > With regards to (2), I have to add that idiomatic expression violations
> > are really hard to be detected by non-native English speakers.
> > 
> > Recently, I wanted to post about exchanging gpg keys on an event
> > we'll have. As this is something that I don't commonly organize, I browsed
> > the Internet to check the proper term (it is "key chain party" or
> > "key signing party"). On my google search, I omitted one of the words on 
> > that phase, and discovered an idiomatic expression that could be argued
> > as a CoC violation.  
> 
> Unintentionally using a phrase like that seems easy enough to handle
> with a reply (on-list or off, as appropriate) saying "You might wish to
> rephrase that as 'key signing party' or similar, because the phrase you
> used is also an idiom with risque connotations."
> 
> To contrast that with the kind of *intentional* issue that would prompt
> a less forgiving response (especially if repeated), consider if someone
> submitted a script to manage such parties, named it "key-party", and
> filled it with other related innuendo, to the point that there's no
> doubt they were doing so intentionally. Sounds ridiculous, and yet there
> are plenty of examples of that and worse in FOSS history.

Yes, I know that an unintentional mention would have a completely
different treatment. 

The point is that, as a maintainer, if one would write a patch with such
expression - or whatever other idiomatic sentence that would have a "hidden"
meaning inside it for non native speakers - I would probably end by applying
it without I even realize about the issue.

Thanks,
Mauro

  reply	other threads:[~2018-10-10 18:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-10-04 16:23 jonsmirl
2018-10-04 18:33 ` Laurent Pinchart
2018-10-04 19:05   ` jonsmirl
2018-10-04 19:21     ` Rodrigo Vivi
2018-10-04 19:53       ` jonsmirl
2018-10-05  7:21       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-10-08 21:35       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-10-08 23:20         ` Rodrigo Vivi
2018-10-09 10:07           ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-10-09 15:59             ` Rodrigo Vivi
2018-10-09 16:52             ` Chris Mason
2018-10-09 22:03               ` Dan Williams
2018-10-10  6:47                 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-10-10 13:57                   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-10-10 17:21                     ` Josh Triplett
2018-10-10 18:28                       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab [this message]
2018-10-10 19:56                         ` Josh Triplett
2018-10-10 20:12                           ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-10-10 20:17                             ` Josh Triplett
2018-10-04 19:34     ` Laurent Pinchart
2018-10-04 20:39   ` Al Viro
2018-10-04 20:56     ` Jonathan Corbet
2018-10-04 21:27       ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-10-04 22:04         ` Jonathan Corbet
2018-10-05 16:03           ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-10-04 22:05         ` Tim.Bird
2018-10-05  6:23           ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-10-05  7:12       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-10-05  7:50         ` Josh Triplett
2018-10-05  9:20           ` Jani Nikula
2018-10-05  9:57             ` Laurent Pinchart
2018-10-05 10:45               ` Joe Perches
2018-10-05 10:55                 ` Laurent Pinchart
2018-10-05 12:59               ` Jani Nikula
2018-10-05 13:09                 ` Laurent Pinchart
2018-10-05 15:17                 ` James Bottomley
2018-10-05 18:28                   ` Josh Triplett
2018-10-05 18:39                     ` James Bottomley
2018-10-04 20:57     ` Josh Triplett
2018-10-05  7:16       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-10-05  7:51         ` Josh Triplett
2018-10-05  8:00           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-10-05  8:44             ` Josh Triplett
2018-10-05 15:26           ` James Bottomley

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