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From: Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab+samsung@kernel.org>
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Em Wed, 10 Oct 2018 16:53:08 +0100
Alan Cox <gnomes@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> escreveu:

> > -Maintainers have the right and responsibility to remove, edit, or reject
> > +Maintainers may remove, edit, or reject
> >  comments, commits, code, wiki edits, issues, and other contributions that are
> >  not aligned to this Code of Conduct, or to ban temporarily or permanently any
> >  contributor for other behaviors that they deem inappropriate, threatening,
> > 
> > The previous text seems too much legal for my taste.
> >   
> 
> That is just as confusing. Maintainers have the right to remove, edit,
> reject commits that *are* aligned with the code as well.

Good point. Yeah, a maintainer can do whatever he thinks it is 
appropriate for a patch - even when it follows the CoC.

> So what exactly is the point here ?

The point is "responsibility" - that sounds like it is bounding a legal
duty to a maintainer.

While this makes sense for Github (as the company doesn't want to be
responsible for sanitizing every single post), this doesn't work for
e-mail based workflow, where the message is stored on a distributed
way, as a maintainer can't "remove, edit or reject" an e-mail.

Thanks,
Mauro