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From: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
To: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
Cc: Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab+samsung@kernel.org>,
	ksummit <Ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [MAINTAINERS SUMMIT] Moving debugfs file systems into sysfs
Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2018 16:53:51 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20181003145351.GB24030@quack2.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20181003134012.GA13071@kroah.com>

On Wed 03-10-18 06:40:12, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 03, 2018 at 02:59:16PM +0200, Jan Kara wrote:
> > On Tue 02-10-18 15:22:38, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> > > Luckily debugfs was made "root only by default" a while ago, to help
> > > mitigate this problem.  So while it is present on a number of distros,
> > > the "attack surface" is greatly reduced.
> > > 
> > > That being said, I bet those distros can drop those config options and
> > > be fine.
> > 
> > Not really. We need those configs to be enabled to be able to troubleshoot
> > customer's problems - e.g., asking customer to enable some trace points or
> > show some stats from debugfs is pretty common...
> 
> trace points should not be in debugfs.  And what stats are in debugfs
> that are not availble in other tools?  If you rely on them, shouldn't we
> move them to a "stable" location so that they can always be accessed?

I personally use e.g. stats under bdi/ directory. And I agree with Jiri
that these things are usually only useful when debugging problems so they
seem to match debugfs purpose rather well. We would not even need debugfs
*mounted* all the time I guess (but then what's the difference between
root-only access currently enforced and not having it mounted, right). But
we do need to have it compiled into the kernel...

								Honza
-- 
Jan Kara <jack@suse.com>
SUSE Labs, CR

  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-10-03 14:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-10-01 18:04 Steven Rostedt
2018-10-02  1:18 ` Greg KH
2018-10-02  1:26   ` Greg KH
2018-10-02 13:07   ` Steven Rostedt
2018-10-02 14:59     ` Olof Johansson
2018-10-02 16:00       ` Shuah Khan
2018-10-02 16:17         ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-10-02 16:30           ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-10-02 21:37             ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-10-02 21:57               ` Shuah Khan
2018-10-02 22:22                 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-10-03 12:59                   ` Jan Kara
2018-10-03 13:40                     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-10-03 13:44                       ` Jiri Kosina
2018-10-03 14:32                         ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-10-03 14:33                           ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-10-04 11:50                             ` Jiri Kosina
2018-10-03 14:53                       ` Jan Kara [this message]
2018-10-04 16:11                         ` Takashi Iwai
2018-10-03 14:11                     ` Shuah Khan
2018-10-03 10:06               ` Sudeep Holla
2018-10-03 13:13                 ` Mark Brown
2018-10-03 14:52                   ` Sudeep Holla
2018-10-02  8:40 ` Jani Nikula
2018-10-02 13:11   ` Steven Rostedt
2018-10-02 21:32   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-10-03  6:23     ` Jani Nikula

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