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From: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
To: Jani Nikula <jani.nikula@intel.com>
Cc: ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org, olof@lxom.net,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@hansenpartnership.com>
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [TECH-TOPIC] Review - Code of Conduct: Let's revamp it.
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2018 11:19:51 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180926091951.GB30730@quack2.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87k1n8vjef.fsf@intel.com>

On Wed 26-09-18 09:54:00, Jani Nikula wrote:
> On Mon, 24 Sep 2018, Joe Perches <joe@perches.com> wrote:
> > On Mon, 2018-09-24 at 16:15 -0700, James Bottomley wrote:
> >> as a maintainer, I'm happy to try to police
> >> civility by calling adverse behaviours out on the list
> >
> > Good for you, but that's not necessarily something others
> > might want to do.  Nor should have to.
> 
> I think the only way any code of conduct is ever going to work is
> top-down, with maintainers leading by example, both in terms of
> following and enforcing the CoC. It's not going to work bottom-up, nor
> with everyone always involving the TAB directly. For the most part, it's
> just a matter of explicitly asking people to be civil anyway.
> 
> This may well be the biggest reason the "code of conlict" did not
> succeed, despite the large number of acks.

One thing I'm missing: Did "code of conflict" really fail? I find the areas
which I follow (filesystems and surroundings) pretty civil but so they were
even before "code of conflict"... So maybe I miss some events?

								Honza
-- 
Jan Kara <jack@suse.com>
SUSE Labs, CR

  reply	other threads:[~2018-09-26  9:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-09-24 14:24 Shuah Khan
2018-09-24 17:51 ` James Morris
2018-09-24 18:11   ` John W. Linville
2018-09-24 19:54     ` Josh Triplett
2018-09-24 20:46     ` Olof Johansson
2018-09-24 22:21       ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-09-25  4:26         ` Daniel Vetter
2018-09-25  6:21           ` Olof Johansson
2018-09-25  8:45             ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-09-25 16:42               ` Daniel Vetter
2018-09-25 20:03                 ` Shuah Khan
2018-09-25  6:46           ` Dan Williams
2018-09-24 19:31 ` Jason Cooper
2018-09-26 20:57   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-09-24 23:15 ` James Bottomley
2018-09-25  1:35   ` Joe Perches
2018-09-26  6:54     ` Jani Nikula
2018-09-26  9:19       ` Jan Kara [this message]
2018-09-26  9:58         ` Hannes Reinecke
2018-09-26 12:35           ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-09-26 16:43         ` Mark Brown
2018-09-26 17:03           ` Tim.Bird
2018-09-26 12:30   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-09-26 12:51     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-09-26 14:01     ` Shuah Khan
2018-09-25 10:56 ` Jani Nikula
2018-09-25 13:38   ` Jonathan Corbet
2018-09-25 15:22     ` Shuah Khan
2018-09-25 16:51       ` Tim.Bird
2018-09-26  8:04         ` Laura Abbott
2018-09-26 14:47           ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-09-27  8:30             ` Laura Abbott
2018-10-04 16:27 ` James Bottomley
2018-10-05 18:10   ` Shuah Khan
2018-10-06 21:39     ` James Bottomley
2018-10-07 15:27       ` Shuah Khan

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