Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [MAINTAINER TOPIC FOR KS] CoC and Linus position (perhaps undocumented/closed/limited/invite session)

[Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>]

On Thu, 20 Sep 2018 22:55:17 +0300
Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com> wrote:

> After the 
> Bastille fell, it was wise not to speak out before knowing what the new power 
> to be would consider appropriate. Having an official forum to report 
> questions, doubts, fears and other feelings (I would say concrete proposals 
> too, but that could turn into a bit of a bikeshedding chaos) to help making 
> sure the FAQ will address the questions of the community - and not the 
> questions that the TAB believes are the important ones, even if the TAB tries 
> to do its best - would in my opinion be useful. It could be the ksummit-
> discuss mailing list, I just feel that some sort of green light is needed. I 
> might be too optimistic though.

[Speaking for myself only, obviously]

As somebody who has spent the day taking a fair amount of criticism for
saying that people have reasons to be worried about a change done in this
manner, I can relate.

But I don't believe there are any guillotines being set up within the
community, and I think it's crucial that we talk about how we want things
to work.  Nobody should count on the TAB - or the maintainers summit - to
come up with all of the right questions, much less all of the right
answers.  There are some *seriously* irrational discussions happening out
there on the wider net, and we sure don't want to reproduce that here.
But, to the extent that we can discuss things rationally, we should.

> To lead by example, I'll ask a question of mines. Since Linus' announcement 
> that took many people by surprise (obviously not everybody as the code of 
> conduct patch was signed by several TAB members, but by no means by a vast 
> majority of the community), all sort of discussions took place in private, and 
> rumours have started spreading regarding the events that led to this 
> situation. I believe I'm not the only one who would like to be informed about 
> the history of this unusual development.

You're not alone.  I think that almost nobody has the complete picture
right now - me included - and that should be rectified.  I will try to
help make this happen; it may take a little while.

Thanks,

jon