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From: Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org>
To: Jani Nikula <jani.nikula@intel.com>
Cc: mchehab+samsung@kernel.org,
	James.Bottomley@hansenpartnership.com, Tim.Bird@sony.com,
	ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [MAINTAINER TOPIC FOR KS] CoC and Linus position (perhaps undocumented/closed/limited/invite session)
Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2018 00:01:01 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180920070100.GA21848@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <875zz0y8ym.fsf@intel.com>

On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 09:33:05AM +0300, Jani Nikula wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Sep 2018, Tim.Bird@sony.com wrote:
> > My view is that it's intended to be a social document, with guidelines
> > for actions within the community  (Actions by maintainers, actions
> > by contributors, actions by the TAB).  To me it's more like rules for
> > a party at my house.  If someone doesn't abide by the rules, I'll ask
> > them to leave the party.  And I'll ask others at the party to remind people
> > to abide by the rules.  But the person kicked out can hardly call the cops
> > on me for doing so.
> 
> Agreed.
> 
> I think there's much more value in adopting a widely used code of
> conduct than writing your own, or even trying to tweak it. If a project
> uses the Contributor Covenant, you pretty much know the rules without
> actually having to read another document and wonder what this all means.
> In this regard, it's really not unlike the GPL for copyleft licenses;
> one acronym tells you what you can and can't do.
> 
> With that perspective, I think the changes proposed in this thread do
> more harm than good. If people still insist the text should be improved,
> I think the proper flow is to file issues or pull requests to
> Contributor Covenant upstream [1], and later update to a new version of
> the document.

Seconded. I've seen many changes accepted upstream, and it seems
reasonable to start there first.

To the extent we need any kernel-specific process clarifications that
*can't* usefully go upstream, I would suggest keeping them in a separate
document.

  reply	other threads:[~2018-09-20  7:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-09-18  5:55 Dave Airlie
2018-09-18 13:43 ` Steven Rostedt
2018-09-18 14:34   ` Daniel Vetter
2018-09-18 14:58     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-09-20  9:12   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-09-20  9:53     ` Daniel Vetter
2018-09-20 10:05       ` Daniel Vetter
2018-09-20 15:57       ` Mark Brown
2018-09-18 14:02 ` James Bottomley
2018-09-18 14:41   ` Daniel Vetter
2018-09-18 19:29   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-09-18 19:36     ` Josh Triplett
2018-09-18 19:52       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-09-18 20:52         ` Takashi Iwai
2018-09-18 21:15         ` Josh Triplett
2018-09-18 23:06       ` Steven Rostedt
2018-09-18 23:38         ` Laurent Pinchart
2018-09-18 19:58     ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2018-09-19 11:28     ` James Bottomley
2018-09-19 11:37       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-09-19 12:03         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-09-19 14:16           ` James Bottomley
2018-09-19 16:06             ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-09-19 19:55             ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-09-19 20:10               ` Luck, Tony
2018-09-19 23:28                 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-09-19 23:45                   ` Tim.Bird
2018-09-19 20:23               ` Dave Airlie
2018-09-20  0:01                 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-09-20  0:22                   ` Tim.Bird
2018-09-20  6:33                     ` Jani Nikula
2018-09-20  7:01                       ` Josh Triplett [this message]
2018-09-20  7:11                         ` Daniel Vetter
2018-09-20  7:04                       ` David Woodhouse
2018-09-24 13:53                         ` Mel Gorman
2018-09-25  5:45                           ` Leon Romanovsky
2018-09-20 10:19                       ` Laurent Pinchart
2018-09-20 10:23                       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-09-20 12:31                         ` Jani Nikula
2018-09-20 13:04                           ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-09-20 13:49                         ` Tim.Bird
2018-09-20 13:55                           ` Laurent Pinchart
2018-09-20 19:14                             ` Tim.Bird
2018-09-20 19:55                               ` Laurent Pinchart
2018-09-20 20:11                                 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2018-09-20 20:14                                 ` Jonathan Corbet
2018-09-20 20:52                           ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-09-20  2:44                   ` Joe Perches
2018-09-20 11:11                     ` Laurent Pinchart
2018-09-20 13:35                       ` Joe Perches
2018-09-20  3:38                   ` Stephen Hemminger
2018-09-20 12:28 ` Eric W. Biederman

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