From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1182EDC9 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2018 13:58:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bombadil.infradead.org (bombadil.infradead.org [198.137.202.133]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A800C102 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2018 13:58:09 +0000 (UTC) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2018 10:58:05 -0300 From: Mauro Carvalho Chehab To: Christoph Hellwig Message-ID: <20180917105805.0ccf0064@coco.lan> In-Reply-To: <20180917132908.GA15424@infradead.org> References: <8412864.7ztUKcXNNC@avalon> <20180910211128.GH16557@thunk.org> <1939259.kNhvOyGpTJ@avalon> <20180917084335.007012ec@coco.lan> <20180917100413.22eac00d@coco.lan> <20180917132908.GA15424@infradead.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [MAINTAINER SUMMIT] community management/subsystem governance List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Em Mon, 17 Sep 2018 06:29:08 -0700 Christoph Hellwig escreveu: > On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 03:10:50PM +0200, Julia Lawall wrote: > > > Btw, on a quick look, it seems that github has/had an email > > > interface already: > > > https://blog.github.com/2011-03-10-reply-to-comments-from-email/ > > > > I only interact with issues posted to github via email (alpine > > specifically). The only problem is that people tend to omit context, > > because they assume that you see the code or previous messages that they > > see in the web interface, which you do not. > > The major problem with github is that as far as I can tell there is no > way to interact with it without creating an account. Well, the same happens with moderated mailing lists. There are a lot of them: $ git grep moderated MAINTAINERS|wc -l 221 Except when it is something that I really want to be merged (e. g. something that affects my own machines or I have a demand from my employer), when a perfectly fine patch I sent is ignored by such lists, I just ignore whatever e-mail I receive from their mailman interface, and I assume that, if I don't receive any reply from a human, either the maintainers of such subsystem(s) accepted it or they just don't care enough. So, if it is patch affecting media, I just apply after a reasonable reviewing time. In the case of github-like interfaces, I would do the same: I would copy the maintainer(s) and just ignore any "non-subscriber's warning" kind of e-mail. That's actually one difference in this case: while on moderated ML you need to be added to each individual ML in order to send e-mails, on a web-based interface, just one subscription is enough for all projects hosted there, and there are a lot less git hosting servers than email mailing lists. So, in the specific case of github, I wouldn't have any issues, as I had to create an account there due to other purposes. Yet, I don't have any need right now to have an account on gitlab or Pagure. I very likely wouldn't create an account there just to forward patches to a random kernel subsystem/driver eventually hosted there. Thanks, Mauro