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From: Guenter Roeck <linux@roeck-us.net>
To: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
Cc: ksummit <ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [MAINTAINER SUMMIT] EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2018 13:05:34 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180913200534.GB11749@roeck-us.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPcyv4i=h-7CHpu5ZvXxPsgUOPY-B-wAjX3e5+W9vCm+o081xw@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Sep 13, 2018 at 12:43:15PM -0700, Dan Williams wrote:
> Currently the only guidance we have about EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL usage in
> Documentation/ is:
> 
> "It implies that the function is considered an internal implementation
> issue, and not really an interface."
> 
> The topics for a Maintainer Summit discussion are:
> 
> 1/ The criteria "is considered an internal implementation issue" is
> sufficiently vague and seems to lead to arbitrary and subjective
> decisions by individual developers. Are there some objective technical
> criteria we can apply? For example, the symbol consumes other
> EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL functionality, the symbol can effect kernel-wide
> state / policy, or the symbol leaks internal implementation details
> that are more unstable than typical EXPORT_SYMBOL apis. Any additional
> subjective criteria to consider? For example, it would be better for
> long term health of Linux if the consumers of a given API had the
> EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL-related encouragement to get their code upstream.
> 
> 2/ With expanded criteria in hand the question then becomes what are
> the considerations for changing an existing symbol between
> EXPORT_SYMBOL or EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL? I expect it would be awkward and
> unwanted to set down hard rules, but a list of considerations that a
> change proposal needs to address would at least help guide such
> discussions.
> 
> Not being a lawyer, I'm less interested in legal concerns, and more
> the technical, code maintenance, and health of the kernel aspects of
> what EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL influences.
> 
> Note, I am not available to travel to Edinburgh to lead this discussion.

FWIW, I personally like to have a means to say "This code shall only
be used by GPL code" for any code I contribute to the Linux kernel.
I understand that this is completely non-technical.

Guenter

  reply	other threads:[~2018-09-13 20:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-09-13 19:43 Dan Williams
2018-09-13 20:05 ` Guenter Roeck [this message]
2018-09-13 20:14 ` Greg KH
2018-09-13 21:04   ` Laurent Pinchart
2018-09-14  6:32     ` Dave Airlie
2018-09-14  7:08       ` Laurent Pinchart
2018-09-16 12:58         ` Wolfram Sang
2018-09-16 22:15         ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-09-17 10:22           ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-09-18 13:35             ` Steven Rostedt

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