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From: Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
To: Tiejun Chen <tiejunc@vmware.com>
Cc: "ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org"
	<ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [TECH TOPIC] A Safety-critical Linux system architecture
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2018 11:50:51 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180913095051.GC634@kroah.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <BY1PR0501MB1462CF95EB4423BD59F5D3EBC51A0@BY1PR0501MB1462.namprd05.prod.outlook.com>

On Thu, Sep 13, 2018 at 03:13:11AM +0000, Tiejun Chen wrote:
> On the other hand, even without something as you said, "understand a
> set of use cases, determine safety requirements, and then complete the
> methods and procedures". Yes, I tend to agree that we need to make
> these stuff clear very well, but this doesn't mean we shouldn't talk
> about Linux itself now. Because we already have fundamental issues
> right there like, 
> 1. Real time issue: we need to get Linux being RTOS to meet
> safety-critical requirements.  

So listing what is "lacking" from the existing -rt patchset would be
great, I'm sure those developers would want to know this.

Combined with some resources to help get the remaining -rt patches
merged upstream would also be great.

> 2. Partitioning {software, hardware}resources: we need to have strong
> barrier to providing such an evidence that one program can't interact
> with another in any ways including shared memory, interrupts, etc.

What is preventing you from adding this to Linux now?

> 3. How to "remove" or disable any unnecessary or unused codes in
> safety-critical environment.

If unused code is unused, why is it an issue?

And how do you describe "unnecessary"?  Who determines this?

> 4. documentations to safety and security in Linux.

What type of documentation is lacking?

These are all very generic questions/topics, why not propose a talk for
the KS track at Plumbers for it?  Or many talks as these really are a
lot of different, individual things.

thanks,

greg k-h

  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-09-13  9:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-09-12  1:18 Tiejun Chen
2018-09-12 10:35 ` Linus Walleij
2018-09-12 16:29   ` Darren Hart
2018-09-13  3:13     ` Tiejun Chen
2018-09-13  7:57       ` Linus Walleij
2018-09-13  9:50       ` Greg KH [this message]
2018-09-16 11:30         ` Tiejun Chen

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