From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5BCFBD70 for ; Tue, 11 Sep 2018 14:35:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from heliosphere.sirena.org.uk (heliosphere.sirena.org.uk [172.104.155.198]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 38EE7716 for ; Tue, 11 Sep 2018 14:35:42 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2018 15:35:38 +0100 From: Mark Brown To: Alexandre Belloni Message-ID: <20180911143538.GA10123@sirena.org.uk> References: <8412864.7ztUKcXNNC@avalon> <2019489.6joTqyUi4Z@avalon> <20180911124423.GM2494@piout.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="uAKRQypu60I7Lcqm" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20180911124423.GM2494@piout.net> Cc: ksummit Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [MAINTAINER SUMMIT] community management/subsystem governance List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , --uAKRQypu60I7Lcqm Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Sep 11, 2018 at 02:44:23PM +0200, Alexandre Belloni wrote: > On 11/09/2018 00:44:57+0200, Daniel Vetter wrote: > > gitlab (or well anything with a concept like pull requests) makes the > > 90% so much easier. And it doesn't take more work for contributors if > > you set things up right - it's just a git push instead of a git > > send-email. At least after initial setup is done. > I would like to chime in and remind you that there are many subsystems > where you get a lot of drive-by contribution from random people. I'm > obviously thinking about rtc but I think this would also apply to codec, > IIO, power/supply, hwmon... In that case any initial setup would be > prohibitive. Right, and this is also a potential issue for people working kernel wide if we end up with a bunch of different instances of gitlab or something similar. =20 > So I need to emphasise that there are subsystem where people are not > backed by a company to contribute or review. What I often see is someone > having $random hardware and submitting a patch adding support for it. > That developer will definitively not review other patches because he has > no particular interest in them. He also probably doesn't have the > experience to do a review. Even where people do have corporate backing for what they're doing they've often worked pretty hard to even get the time to do submissions, or they're doing it as a byproduct of whatever the "real" goal is. It also reduces the impact from CI quite a bit if you've got lots of random drivers with most of the changes going in there, though it's still a win for the core and for any hardware which does manage to make it into a CI system. --uAKRQypu60I7Lcqm Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAABCgAdFiEEreZoqmdXGLWf4p/qJNaLcl1Uh9AFAluX0roACgkQJNaLcl1U h9AJzwf/bnXSc95wXkhj2ORnQ0MFtoxCx0fBqsNPF0rBsAG3q7/HGC1YgzrrbuVA AnpMWlrsxLNWlrYknAQP0mmFopj4fGgRlV7EOEyw00e7GDqXz8KqZl9YAGXSEbEu /VAz7kebUSNgxrPWsnspcryoPDK1TNbkABkPxka3EkmocMPGzfVj+VwH8/nlPU5F O9ticD9TUeC6/UaaCjOIUseq/LddgqpjOMP5Sia2m0+rZyzG6W+xrwDh5gSsm3E7 aN739aXAXQmav9k5Vd8GJPaoT29W7yEBPC+NG64ALIMM37rmmrMuu9Sh8qY8WuH2 I/viTDo5Ux1tjSlnes+K84VT9fVi1A== =ni9P -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --uAKRQypu60I7Lcqm--