From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1F90DD67 for ; Mon, 10 Sep 2018 15:38:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from NAM05-BY2-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-eopbgr710120.outbound.protection.outlook.com [40.107.71.120]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9DC8C71C for ; Mon, 10 Sep 2018 15:38:09 +0000 (UTC) From: Sasha Levin To: Linus Torvalds Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2018 15:38:07 +0000 Message-ID: <20180910153806.GR16300@sasha-vm> References: <1536592110.4035.5.camel@HansenPartnership.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <0D109D75FEA8DB488814F00804560C72@namprd21.prod.outlook.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: James Bottomley , ksummit Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [MAINTAINER SUMMIT] community management/subsystem governance List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 05:10:48AM -1000, Linus Torvalds wrote: >On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 5:08 AM James Bottomley > wrote: >> >> On Mon, 2018-09-10 at 04:53 -1000, Linus Torvalds wrote: >> > "Live without email - possible?" >> >> Can I propose one small alteration to the topic: >> >> "Patches without Email - Possible?" > >Yes, better. That's what I meant anyway. > >I still want the pull requests as email, and I still think email is >often the best way to discuss things. Yes, email is great for discussions, but one concern I have is that once discussions ended and a patch was merged, a lot of those discussions are lost forever. It's somewhat easy to google a patch and look in lkml archives to see some discussion as a result of the patch, but that's far from perfect: 1. For different patch revisions, some discussions manage to hide in the archives. 2. Discussions that resulted in a patch being sent aren't linked to the patch itself. 3. Any discussions after the patch was merged aren't easy to locate, specially if they're not in the same thread as the original patch. This makes the lives of stable/distro folks more difficult than it should be. Yes, some maintainers started adding links to lkml archives, but those are very inconsistent and often just point to the patch submission rather than relevant discussions. I'm not sure what's a good way to solve this, but I'd really like to stop losing this valuable information as a result of the current process. -- Thanks, Sasha=