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From: Eduardo Valentin <edubezval@gmail.com>
To: Jiri Kosina <jikos@kernel.org>
Cc: ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [MAINTAINERS SUMMIT] Handling of embargoed security issues
Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2018 21:04:57 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180910040455.GA2358@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <nycvar.YFH.7.76.1809092143280.15880@cbobk.fhfr.pm>

On Sun, Sep 09, 2018 at 09:48:58PM +0200, Jiri Kosina wrote:
> On Sun, 9 Sep 2018, Greg KH wrote:
> 
> > Yes, this is something that is happening today.
> > 
> > If you look, L1TF is not fully backported to 4.4.y, for anyone running
> > 4.4.y as a host operating system.  The backport was just too horrible
> > and no one wanted to do it and test it as all of the major hosting
> > services have moved on to 4.9.y or better.
> 
> Unrelated sidenote: we have the whole thing backported to SUSE 4.4 kernel, 
> so it can be cherry-picked from there if needed.
> 
> > There are other examples of this, spectre fixes for arm32 are not in any
> > stable tree older than 4.18.y.  Same for other arches and kernel
> > versions.
> > 
> > I tried to write up "what kernel version to use" on my blog a few weeks
> > back to answer this type of question.  Basically, only "trust" the
> > latest LTS stable kernel for security issues to be able to use it to run
> > untrusted users.  When you start getting older kernels involved, nasty
> > problems like what Meltdown and the like are having to implement, it
> > just does not work.
> 
> OK, so as long as this message is completely clear to the stable tree 
> consumers (see my other mail about potential legal implications for the 
> downstream consumers in case they are not aware of this), then all is 
> fine.

If I got this right, the lastest LTS gets what is closest to upstream,
everything else gets "best effort" backport, I assume.

> 
> Thanks,
> 
> -- 
> Jiri Kosina
> SUSE Labs
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2018-09-10  4:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-09-06 19:18 Jiri Kosina
2018-09-06 20:56 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-09-06 21:14   ` Jiri Kosina
2018-09-06 22:51     ` Eduardo Valentin
2018-09-07  9:17   ` Jani Nikula
2018-09-07 14:43   ` David Woodhouse
2018-09-06 22:55 ` Eduardo Valentin
2018-09-07  8:21   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-09-10 23:26     ` Eduardo Valentin
2018-09-11  8:45       ` Greg KH
2018-09-11 17:10         ` Dave Hansen
2018-09-11 18:28           ` Greg KH
2018-09-11 18:44           ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-09-07 13:30   ` Jiri Kosina
2018-09-09 12:55     ` Greg KH
2018-09-09 19:48       ` Jiri Kosina
2018-09-10  4:04         ` Eduardo Valentin [this message]
2018-09-12  7:03           ` Greg KH
2018-09-10  4:12       ` Eduardo Valentin
2018-09-10 11:10       ` Mark Brown
2018-09-12  4:22   ` Balbir Singh
2018-09-08  4:21 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-09-08  8:56   ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-09-08 11:21     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-09-08 11:34       ` Greg KH
2018-09-08 14:20         ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-09-08 15:29           ` Greg KH
2018-09-08 15:00         ` James Bottomley
2018-09-08 15:32           ` Greg KH
2018-09-08 15:54             ` James Bottomley
2018-09-08 19:49               ` Linus Torvalds
2018-09-08 21:24                 ` James Bottomley
2018-09-08 22:33                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-09-09 12:18                     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-09-10 22:59                 ` Dave Hansen
2018-09-11  8:48                   ` Greg KH
2018-09-09 12:51               ` Greg KH
2018-09-09 14:20                 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-09-09 14:38                   ` James Bottomley
2018-09-09 14:51                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-09-09 17:20                       ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-09-09 17:48                         ` David Woodhouse
2018-09-09 18:17                         ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-09-09 18:56                           ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-09-09 19:19                             ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-09-09 20:20                             ` Jiri Kosina
2018-09-09 21:36                               ` James Bottomley
2018-09-10  9:25                             ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-09-10 14:40                               ` James Bottomley
2018-09-11  8:20                               ` Jiri Kosina
2018-09-11  9:03                                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-09-09 19:41                   ` Jiri Kosina
2018-09-08 19:26           ` Jiri Kosina
2018-09-08 19:47             ` James Bottomley

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