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From: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
To: Stephen Rothwell <sfr@canb.auug.org.au>
Cc: ksummit <ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [MAINTAINERS SUMMIT] API replacement/deprecation
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2018 22:24:37 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180905222437.5d2a1730@vmware.local.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180906094158.1eba4f50@canb.auug.org.au>

On Thu, 6 Sep 2018 09:41:58 +1000
Stephen Rothwell <sfr@canb.auug.org.au> wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> On Wed, 5 Sep 2018 15:57:02 -0700 Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org> wrote:
> >
> > I'd like to discuss ways that we could deprecate APIs more sanely. At
> > present I've seen (and used) two approaches, fast and slow:  
> 
> As the one who often has the "fun" of coping with API changes, I would
> like to be involved in this discussion.
> 
> My first point would be that (almost) every time someone has tried the
> "ultra fast" method (i.e. add new interface, convert everyone in the
> current kernel, remove the old interface all in one go) we have had new
> users of the old interface introduced at the same time.  (pain for the
> linux-next bunny :-()

Can this be solved with a script on kernel.org? Or a zero-day bot that
checks new commits (and perhaps patches to LKML) that checks for
deprecated functions being added by new code (like strcpy) and the
author would then get a nasty email about adding deprecated interfaces.

This would solve the issue of not everyone using the latest checkpatch,
as this wouldn't be a voluntary self-check. It would also quickly
educate developers on what code is not acceptable to be added.

-- Steve

  reply	other threads:[~2018-09-06  2:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-09-05 22:57 Kees Cook
2018-09-05 23:41 ` Stephen Rothwell
2018-09-06  2:24   ` Steven Rostedt [this message]
2018-09-06  6:12     ` Julia Lawall
2018-09-06 18:24     ` Kees Cook
2018-09-06 23:18       ` Stephen Rothwell
2018-09-06 23:24         ` Kees Cook
2018-09-07  7:03           ` Takashi Iwai
2018-09-07  7:20             ` Johannes Berg
2018-09-07  7:31               ` Takashi Iwai
2018-09-07  9:42               ` Julia Lawall
2018-09-07  8:04             ` Jani Nikula
2018-09-07  9:38               ` Julia Lawall
2018-09-07  9:54                 ` Jani Nikula
2018-09-07 10:05                   ` Julia Lawall
2018-09-07 10:43                     ` Jani Nikula
2018-09-07 10:25                   ` Alexandre Belloni
2018-09-07 11:44                     ` Mark Brown
2018-09-10 12:51                   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-09-11  8:10                     ` Jani Nikula
2018-09-11  9:34                       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-09-11 11:08                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-09-07  8:19           ` Jan Kara
2018-09-07 14:33           ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-09-07 16:10             ` Kees Cook
2018-09-07 20:30               ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-09-07 20:56                 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-09-08  8:15                   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-09-08 15:19                     ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-09-10 12:28           ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-09-10 16:09             ` Kees Cook
2018-09-07 10:14         ` Dan Carpenter
2018-09-07 10:40         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-09-07  8:40       ` Maxime Ripard
2018-09-06  4:44 ` Julia Lawall
2018-09-06 10:04 ` Linus Walleij
2018-09-06 10:11 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-09-06 14:59   ` Kees Cook
2018-09-06 15:06     ` Geert Uytterhoeven

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