From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1EA1A1392 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2018 14:50:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from heliosphere.sirena.org.uk (heliosphere.sirena.org.uk [172.104.155.198]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 924807EA for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2018 14:50:32 +0000 (UTC) Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2018 15:50:29 +0100 From: Mark Brown To: Sasha Levin Message-ID: <20180905145029.GQ9781@sirena.org.uk> References: <5c9c41b2-14f9-41cc-ae85-be9721f37c86@redhat.com> <20180904213340.GD16300@sasha-vm> <20180905081658.GB24902@quack2.suse.cz> <1536141525.8121.2.camel@HansenPartnership.com> <20180905104700.GE9781@sirena.org.uk> <6a25761a-c640-4eb2-952c-4bcd91da28a2@email.android.com> <20180905131643.GM9781@sirena.org.uk> <20180905142728.GJ16300@sasha-vm> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="l7GkBbkEatsaRqBf" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20180905142728.GJ16300@sasha-vm> Cc: James Bottomley , Greg KH , "ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org" Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [MAINTAINER SUMMIT] Stable trees and release time List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , --l7GkBbkEatsaRqBf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Wed, Sep 05, 2018 at 02:27:29PM +0000, Sasha Levin wrote: > On Wed, Sep 05, 2018 at 02:16:43PM +0100, Mark Brown wrote: > >It's not just maintainers any more - in particular we've got Sasha's > >neural net thing picking patches as well and it's substantially more > >trigger happy than at least I am. People do get a chance to review what > >it's picking but that's different to maintainers picking things. > What can I do to make the process better? > I tried giving longer review periods, I tried sending emails right when > the patch is merged upstream instead of weeks later and I tried actively > pursuing some maintainers for explicit Acks. None of which seemed to > make anyone happier. Honestly the whole thing just gives me a bit of anxiety. I'd say most of the patches my thinking is "it's *probably* fine" and it's rare for me to think "Oh, I missed that important patch!". As you know I do sometimes actively push back on things. On balance it mostly doesn't break things though and I'm not sure what can be improved process wise here, a lot of it is fundamentally that if I thought it was clearly good for stable I'd have flagged it already. --l7GkBbkEatsaRqBf Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAABCgAdFiEEreZoqmdXGLWf4p/qJNaLcl1Uh9AFAluP7TQACgkQJNaLcl1U h9CRyQf/SeGJ8MqdapARaNQqPEl+VbE6ZG73lHAmLuEytpwRXS1VzyLLFahpzLAs YvM1S6qeB90LgRHFF9CvlGXb2Od2FCf5gInJDcW84aukv/ex7KvbqZ2if+ycuWlZ wGfoo9i3BUIKCfsExMAbj2TzCzLMVohfw0Hhb6u8Bkm1+aJSMLZgCfZ6rM4WyI// GlCP2siZJaue756he8JS0e/E3F9Y3Tj6/y1y4H6I0mycssxMU4iOytPDgYbNLHYP rRDuJ1UGRcjRCHI3hBivtckTmci6Mj4wIDPh4M4z8wR86qpRAp4YFKfEbrw53LdU 0G/3WcgMzdMAxhLJOVnm6yKYPi8sHg== =ztfd -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --l7GkBbkEatsaRqBf--