Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [MAINTAINER SUMMIT] Stable trees and release time

[Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>]

On Wed, Sep 05, 2018 at 11:13:01AM +0200, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
> Hi Greg,
> 
> On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 10:56 AM Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
> > On Wed, Sep 05, 2018 at 10:32:45AM +0200, Jiri Kosina wrote:
> > > But yeah, it's weak and doesn't solve the primary thing, which is just the
> > > size of stable itself.
> >
> > I've held off on responding so far, but I think this is the big point of
> > "fear" that many people seem to have with the stable updates over the
> > past years.
> >
> > Yes, the "size" is bigger than before, but that is because of the
> > following things:
> 
> [...]
> 
> > So yes, things are "bigger" than before, but still, overall, we are only
> > accepting a small percentage of patches that hit Linus's tree (12
> > patches a day for stable vs. 216 a day for Linus).
> >
> > Are you also worried that Linus's tree is getting "bigger"?  :)
> >
> > So we are larger than before, but this is a good thing, because we are
> > actually catching more problems than we were before.  Which means your
> > older kernels had more bugs...
> >
> > Anyway, just a comment in that you should not "fear" the increased size,
> > it is to be expected as more people pay more attention to Linux,
> > combined with the fact that we are still growing.  If the stable patches
> > were shrinking, then I would get worried as that would imply that people
> > don't care anymore.
> 
> So we're slowly evolving to the point where distros/companies/... can just
> follow Linus' tree instead, and stable trees are no longer needed, except for
> the last released point version (no-one wants to run plain rc1 or rc2) ;-)

I would _love_ if if that were to start happening!

Seriously, I would...

greg "please put me out of a job" k-h