From: Sasha Levin <Alexander.Levin@microsoft.com>
To: Laura Abbott <labbott@redhat.com>
Cc: Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
"ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org"
<ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [MAINTAINER SUMMIT] Stable trees and release time
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2018 04:53:26 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180905045325.GG16300@sasha-vm> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <60ed8d94-c793-9c51-5904-c4fd05bd065f@redhat.com>
On Tue, Sep 04, 2018 at 02:58:42PM -0700, Laura Abbott wrote:
>On 09/04/2018 02:33 PM, Sasha Levin wrote:
>>Why not set your own release schedule and just take the latest stable
>>kernel at that point? So what if the .Z+1 kernel is out a day later? You
>>could just queue it up for your next release.
>>
>
>It's really rough on users to update that frequently. Fedora relies
>on users to give feedback to let us know to push an update and on
>older releases it can be hard to get feedback. We've sometimes had
>issues where multiple stable issues get delayed because they haven't
>gotten enough testing to be pushed. Admittedly that's a Fedora quirk
>but it's still an issue that the short rc and release window is not
>enough for many users to test and give feedback. When stable regressions
>are introduced it's very difficult to guide users to bisect.
>
>>This is exactly what would happen if you ask Greg to go on some sort of
>>a schedule - he'll just defer the .Z+1 commits to what would have been
>>the .Z+2 release, so you don't really win anything by moving to a
>>stricter schedule.
>
>I'd actually be okay with that. I'd rather focus on testing a known
>set of commits and getting those stable before pushing out.
My point is that Fedora can just skip a certain stable release if the
timing is off. If Greg releases .Z+1 but you just started testing .Z
just proceed with .Z and go with .Z+2 for your next release.
The set of commits in .Z and .Z+2 would be exactly the same if Greg is
asked to wait longer between releases.
--
Thanks,
Sasha
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-09-05 4:53 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-09-04 20:58 Laura Abbott
2018-09-04 21:12 ` Jiri Kosina
2018-09-05 14:31 ` Greg KH
2018-09-04 21:22 ` Justin Forbes
2018-09-05 14:42 ` Greg KH
2018-09-05 15:10 ` Mark Brown
2018-09-05 15:10 ` Sasha Levin
2018-09-05 16:19 ` Guenter Roeck
2018-09-05 18:31 ` Laura Abbott
2018-09-05 21:23 ` Justin Forbes
2018-09-06 2:17 ` Eduardo Valentin
2018-09-04 21:33 ` Sasha Levin
2018-09-04 21:55 ` Guenter Roeck
2018-09-04 22:03 ` Laura Abbott
2018-09-04 23:14 ` Sasha Levin
2018-09-04 23:43 ` Guenter Roeck
2018-09-05 1:17 ` Laura Abbott
2018-09-06 3:56 ` Benjamin Gilbert
2018-09-04 21:58 ` Laura Abbott
2018-09-05 4:53 ` Sasha Levin [this message]
2018-09-05 6:48 ` Jiri Kosina
2018-09-05 8:16 ` Jan Kara
2018-09-05 8:32 ` Jiri Kosina
2018-09-05 8:56 ` Greg KH
2018-09-05 9:13 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-09-05 9:33 ` Greg KH
2018-09-05 10:11 ` Mark Brown
2018-09-05 14:44 ` Steven Rostedt
2018-09-05 9:58 ` James Bottomley
2018-09-05 10:47 ` Mark Brown
2018-09-05 12:24 ` James Bottomley
2018-09-05 12:53 ` Jiri Kosina
2018-09-05 13:05 ` Greg KH
2018-09-05 13:15 ` Jiri Kosina
2018-09-05 14:00 ` Greg KH
2018-09-05 14:06 ` Sasha Levin
2018-09-05 21:02 ` Jiri Kosina
2018-09-05 16:39 ` James Bottomley
2018-09-05 17:06 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2018-09-05 17:33 ` Steven Rostedt
2018-09-05 13:03 ` Takashi Iwai
2018-09-05 13:27 ` Daniel Vetter
2018-09-05 14:05 ` Greg KH
2018-09-05 15:54 ` Daniel Vetter
2018-09-05 16:19 ` Sasha Levin
2018-09-05 16:26 ` Daniel Vetter
2018-09-05 19:09 ` Sasha Levin
2018-09-05 20:18 ` Sasha Levin
2018-09-05 20:33 ` Daniel Vetter
2018-09-05 14:20 ` Sasha Levin
2018-09-05 14:30 ` Takashi Iwai
2018-09-05 14:41 ` Sasha Levin
2018-09-05 14:46 ` Takashi Iwai
2018-09-05 14:54 ` Sasha Levin
2018-09-05 15:12 ` Takashi Iwai
2018-09-05 15:19 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-09-05 15:29 ` Sasha Levin
2018-09-05 13:16 ` Mark Brown
2018-09-05 14:27 ` Sasha Levin
2018-09-05 14:50 ` Mark Brown
2018-09-05 15:00 ` Sasha Levin
2018-09-05 10:28 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-09-05 11:20 ` Jiri Kosina
2018-09-05 14:41 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-09-05 15:18 ` Steven Rostedt
2018-09-06 8:48 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-09-06 12:47 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-09-04 21:49 ` Guenter Roeck
2018-09-04 22:06 ` Laura Abbott
2018-09-04 23:35 ` Guenter Roeck
2018-09-05 1:45 ` Laura Abbott
2018-09-05 2:54 ` Guenter Roeck
2018-09-05 8:31 ` Jan Kara
2018-09-05 3:44 ` Eduardo Valentin
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