From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 30DF12D for ; Thu, 3 May 2018 03:10:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from imap.thunk.org (imap.thunk.org [74.207.234.97]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9F6A934F for ; Thu, 3 May 2018 03:10:08 +0000 (UTC) Date: Wed, 2 May 2018 23:10:00 -0400 From: "Theodore Y. Ts'o" To: Mark Brown Message-ID: <20180503031000.GC29205@thunk.org> References: <20180501163818.GD1468@sasha-vm> <20180501194450.GD10479@thunk.org> <20180501200019.GA7397@sasha-vm> <20180501205448.GE10479@thunk.org> <20180501211551.GI2714@sirena.org.uk> <20180502194632.GB18390@sasha-vm> <20180503020550.GP2714@sirena.org.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20180503020550.GP2714@sirena.org.uk> Cc: "ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org" , "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" , Greg KH , "w@1wt.eu" Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] bug-introducing patches List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , On Thu, May 03, 2018 at 11:05:50AM +0900, Mark Brown wrote: > On Wed, May 02, 2018 at 07:46:34PM +0000, Sasha Levin wrote: > > > As you said, the regression should be fixed "asap", not "immediately". > > It should go through some sort of review and testing the maintainers are > > happy with, but unfourtenately it doesn't happen now. > > Doesn't happen some of the time. It's not like this is a universal > problem. > > Especially for driver specific things there's at times no realistic > prospect of getting useful independent review of fixes, the hardware > isn't always widely available and if the fix isn't a pure software thing > at some point you just have to trust the judgement of the vendor. And sometimes the Demon Murphy will cause a regression fix for user A, to cause breakage for slightly different hardware belonging to user B. :-( - Ted