From: Willy Tarreau <w@1wt.eu>
To: Guenter Roeck <linux@roeck-us.net>
Cc: "ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org"
<ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org>,
Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] bug-introducing patches
Date: Thu, 03 May 2018 02:30:57 -0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180503023052.GA12856@1wt.eu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ed65dc49-dad0-21a1-676c-f9ba43ba5c6c@roeck-us.net>
On Wed, May 02, 2018 at 05:38:32PM -0700, Guenter Roeck wrote:
> > Because if that last is the case, then the prescription is very simple
> > and not controversial --- bug fixes found post -rc4 should be held to
> > the next merge window.
> >
>
> Holding up even fixes for severe bugs for 4-6 weeks ? Seriously, that is
> unrealistic. Holding up the fix for the next SpeckHammer because it was not
> ready before -rc4 ? I don't think so.
That's exactly what I explained earlier in this thread, it will actually
make the resulting kernels even worse as soon as there is less than 100%
regression (which is the case, since some fixes are valid). Postponing
valid fixes because some of them might be wrong is a bad idea. We need
to trust the developer regarding the test coverage and the developer has
to become trusted by openly indicating the type of testing run on the
patch. From there it will become easier to decide whether to revert a
whole patch set after a few failed fixes, or to take a few more fixes
in hopes that ultimately everything will be good.
Willy
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-05-03 2:30 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 145+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-05-01 16:38 Sasha Levin
2018-05-01 19:44 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-05-01 20:00 ` Sasha Levin
2018-05-01 20:48 ` Willy Tarreau
2018-05-01 20:42 ` Sasha Levin
2018-05-01 20:54 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-05-01 21:15 ` Mark Brown
2018-05-02 8:11 ` Daniel Vetter
2018-05-02 19:46 ` Sasha Levin
2018-05-03 2:05 ` Mark Brown
2018-05-03 3:10 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-05-03 3:52 ` Guenter Roeck
2018-05-03 12:03 ` Greg KH
2018-05-03 22:42 ` Mark Brown
2018-05-03 23:09 ` Tony Lindgren
2018-05-04 14:21 ` Ulf Hansson
2018-05-09 8:44 ` Mark Brown
2018-05-09 8:47 ` Daniel Vetter
2018-05-09 8:51 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-05-09 9:03 ` Mark Brown
2018-05-09 10:47 ` Stephen Rothwell
2018-05-09 10:55 ` Vinod Koul
2018-05-09 12:43 ` Stephen Rothwell
2018-05-09 12:47 ` Vinod Koul
2018-05-15 10:42 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2018-05-15 11:54 ` Stephen Rothwell
2018-05-09 14:05 ` Mark Brown
2018-05-09 22:09 ` Stephen Rothwell
2018-05-10 13:36 ` Mark Brown
2018-05-10 22:01 ` Stephen Rothwell
2018-05-09 15:57 ` Guenter Roeck
2018-05-09 21:45 ` Stephen Rothwell
2018-05-09 16:04 ` Dan Williams
2018-05-09 21:51 ` Stephen Rothwell
2018-05-09 19:35 ` Boris Brezillon
2018-05-09 21:58 ` Stephen Rothwell
2018-05-10 3:15 ` Sasha Levin
2018-05-10 15:57 ` Tony Lindgren
2018-05-10 22:05 ` Stephen Rothwell
2018-05-11 8:49 ` David Sterba
2018-05-12 4:03 ` Stephen Rothwell
2018-05-12 4:38 ` Stephen Rothwell
2018-05-12 18:34 ` Guenter Roeck
2018-05-13 13:53 ` Andy Shevchenko
2018-05-14 8:36 ` Ulf Hansson
2018-05-14 21:45 ` Stephen Rothwell
2018-05-17 5:10 ` Mark Brown
2018-05-10 16:03 ` Jiri Kosina
2018-05-10 16:47 ` Sasha Levin
2018-05-14 7:53 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-05-14 8:00 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-05-14 8:12 ` Boris Brezillon
2018-05-14 8:29 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-05-14 8:34 ` Boris Brezillon
2018-05-14 8:40 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-05-14 8:48 ` Boris Brezillon
2018-05-14 9:25 ` Fengguang Wu
2018-05-11 2:10 ` Mark Brown
2018-05-08 2:34 ` Sasha Levin
2018-05-08 3:48 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-05-08 14:49 ` Tony Lindgren
2018-05-09 8:13 ` Mark Brown
2018-05-10 15:36 ` Tony Lindgren
2018-05-08 20:29 ` Sasha Levin
2018-05-08 20:40 ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-05-08 20:55 ` Sasha Levin
2018-05-08 21:06 ` David Lang
2018-05-08 21:43 ` Sasha Levin
2018-05-08 21:51 ` Dan Williams
2018-05-08 22:41 ` James Bottomley
2018-05-08 21:26 ` Justin Forbes
2018-05-08 21:08 ` Ken Moffat
2018-05-09 4:47 ` Willy Tarreau
2018-05-08 13:58 ` Justin Forbes
2018-05-08 2:39 ` Sasha Levin
2018-05-01 22:02 ` Sasha Levin
2018-05-02 4:30 ` Willy Tarreau
2018-05-02 19:42 ` Sasha Levin
2018-05-02 20:02 ` Willy Tarreau
2018-07-14 17:38 ` Pavel Machek
2018-07-14 18:37 ` Guenter Roeck
2018-07-14 19:47 ` Pavel Machek
2018-07-14 20:40 ` Guenter Roeck
2018-07-14 21:09 ` Pavel Machek
2018-07-15 5:57 ` Willy Tarreau
2018-07-15 8:54 ` Greg KH
2018-07-15 14:50 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-07-15 20:15 ` Pavel Machek
2018-05-03 11:08 ` Jani Nikula
2018-05-03 14:33 ` James Bottomley
2018-05-03 14:49 ` Willy Tarreau
2018-05-03 15:06 ` Sasha Levin
2018-05-03 15:27 ` James Bottomley
2018-05-03 15:43 ` Sasha Levin
2018-05-03 17:17 ` Randy Dunlap
2018-05-03 17:39 ` Sasha Levin
2018-05-03 18:10 ` James Bottomley
2018-05-03 15:57 ` Willy Tarreau
2018-05-03 18:58 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-05-01 23:28 ` Stephen Rothwell
2018-05-01 23:10 ` Stephen Rothwell
2018-05-02 15:32 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-05-02 19:51 ` Sasha Levin
2018-05-02 20:41 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-05-03 0:06 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-05-03 0:38 ` Guenter Roeck
2018-05-03 2:30 ` Willy Tarreau [this message]
2018-05-03 14:55 ` Sasha Levin
2018-05-03 15:49 ` Guenter Roeck
2018-05-03 16:02 ` Sasha Levin
2018-05-03 16:50 ` Justin Forbes
2018-05-03 17:09 ` Guenter Roeck
2018-05-03 11:48 ` Al Viro
2018-05-03 14:46 ` Sasha Levin
2018-05-03 14:52 ` Willy Tarreau
2018-05-03 15:01 ` Sasha Levin
2018-05-03 16:01 ` Willy Tarreau
2018-05-03 16:15 ` Sasha Levin
2018-05-03 16:35 ` Willy Tarreau
2018-05-03 17:29 ` Sasha Levin
2018-05-03 17:57 ` Willy Tarreau
2018-05-03 18:12 ` Sasha Levin
2018-05-03 18:46 ` Guenter Roeck
2018-05-03 19:03 ` Willy Tarreau
2018-05-03 16:54 ` Al Viro
2018-05-03 17:34 ` Sasha Levin
2018-05-03 18:20 ` Al Viro
2018-05-03 18:55 ` Greg KH
2018-05-03 19:14 ` Willy Tarreau
2018-05-03 19:17 ` Sasha Levin
2018-05-03 19:04 ` Sasha Levin
2018-05-04 9:57 ` David Howells
2018-05-04 12:31 ` Jani Nikula
2018-05-04 13:09 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-05-04 17:40 ` Greg KH
2018-05-04 21:13 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-05-04 21:38 ` James Bottomley
2018-05-04 21:51 ` Sasha Levin
2018-05-04 23:35 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-05-05 4:24 ` Willy Tarreau
2018-05-05 5:02 ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-05-05 16:37 ` Greg KH
2018-05-05 5:27 ` Sasha Levin
2018-05-03 11:43 ` Al Viro
2018-05-02 15:32 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
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