From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 79E56970 for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2017 19:10:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DCB0B3FE for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2017 19:10:10 +0000 (UTC) Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2017 15:10:08 -0400 From: Steven Rostedt To: Josef Bacik Message-ID: <20170706151008.24addd2b@gandalf.local.home> In-Reply-To: <658A3F80-5E48-4EC4-A591-E3783AD3DADC@fb.com> References: <20170629195537.534445e7@gandalf.local.home> <20170629203224.6bf7f29a@gandalf.local.home> <20170629205218.5b9a7923@gandalf.local.home> <20170629211641.5aeb3af7@gandalf.local.home> <20170629212750.5c3542ee@gandalf.local.home> <20170629221245.489760b1@gandalf.local.home> <20170630025852.xjoif3aai6rny5a2@ast-mbp> <20170629230251.02f380cb@gandalf.local.home> <6AE378F0-42F7-45DE-9F3C-050A5019A1E8@fb.com> <20170630142956.7e0cb2d6@gandalf.local.home> <20170630143030.305b68a0@gandalf.local.home> <658A3F80-5E48-4EC4-A591-E3783AD3DADC@fb.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Tom Zanussi , ksummit , Peter Zijlstra , bristot , Julien Desfossez , Ingo Molnar , daolivei Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [TECH TOPIC] Pulling away from the tracing ABI quicksands List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , On Fri, 30 Jun 2017 18:37:59 +0000 Josef Bacik wrote: > [ I forgot to add Tom to the Cc list. Sending again. ] >=20 > On Fri, 30 Jun 2017 14:29:56 -0400 > Steven Rostedt wrote: >=20 > > On Fri, 30 Jun 2017 18:24:12 +0000 > > Josef Bacik wrote: > > =20 > > > Yup I=E2=80=99ll start bugging people to submit talk proposals, start= ing with you! I=E2=80=99ll put up my proposal in the next day or two, I th= ink Brendan has something he=E2=80=99s going to talk about. Thanks, =20 > >=20 > > I shouldn't have used the term "talk", as it really is all about > > discussions. In fact, if you need more than one slide, you have too > > many. > >=20 > > That said, I could probably come up with a few things, starting with > > this trace event issue. But it will be pointless if Peter Zijlstra and > > Mathieu are not there. > >=20 > > But having ideas about dynamic fields in tracepoints is always > > interesting. Not to mention talking about Tom Zanussi's latest > > histogram work. It may be pretty much completed, but I would like to > > discuss where we go from there. > >=20 > > One last thing. I don't want to have too many responsibilities, as I'm > > on the LPC program committee and I need to make sure I have time to > > fulfill any action items I'm responsible for during the conference. > > =20 >=20 > Yeah plumbers is a weird venue for tracing, I always hope that we are > going to have people like Brendan or other sysadmin-y people show up > and say =E2=80=9Cthis is what sucks about tracing, please fix it=E2=80=9D= , and then > we can go fix it. It doesn=E2=80=99t really seem to happen that way tho,= and > for things like tracing ABI there just aren=E2=80=99t the right people in= the > room to have that kind of discussion. My proposal was just going to > be a laundry list of things that would make my life easier, but it > doesn=E2=80=99t really warrant a full micro-conference to listen to me bi= tch > for an hour. If it turns out nobody else has much to talk about then > we can just declare tracing is feature complete and we can talk about > something else ;). Thanks, >=20 At this rate, I'm guessing that Tracing is not going to be on the Plumbers' agenda. -- Steve