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From: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: ksummit <ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [TECH TOPIC] is Kconfig a bit hard sometimes?
Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2017 13:11:10 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170630131110.181c3b7a@gandalf.local.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+55aFxBUe4QAa11i-ySr2i959EpvcEZYf=9NumWyTDH+6BEQw@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, 27 Jun 2017 10:18:04 -0700
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote:

> We could *maybe* make it part of some "make simpleconfig" that just
> basically uses "select" a lot with s special architecture-specific
> Kconfig file, and try to help people with a few bigger questions.

Actually, I think something can be done quite easily today without much
modifications.

What about a: make profileconfig

And add at the top of make menuconfig menu: Profiles

Which the "make profileconfig" will only look at that.

The Porfile section will only contain profiles. Which would be human
readable options (what the hell is "Big Bang thermal governor" anyway?).

That is:

 Profiles:

    Virtualization:

           KVM <menu>
              Intel
              AMD
              Both

           Paravirt


    Networking:

           Firewall
           [...]

    Power Management:

           [...]

    File systems:

          Ext

          [...]


Etc, etc

None of these options should become a CONFIG_*. That is, no code in the
kernel should have CONFIG_VIRTUALIZATION, as these profiles wont create
a CONFIG_ define. But instead, each of these will select all the
necessary options to support what it wants.

I will say, it may enable more than you ask for. But at least I believe
something like this would be a start. Then you only need to select a
few options and it will enable everything you need to have it work.

The profiles should only be what a normal person would ask for in a
kernel. Yes, I want USB storage, Yes I want PCI support, Yes I want a
firewall. No I don't want SElinux (sorry). No I don't want encrypted
filesystems (ok this is for a test box, I don't care about security or
privacy).

etc etc 

-- Steve

  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-06-30 17:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-06-27 13:58 Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-27 17:18 ` Linus Torvalds
2017-06-27 18:44   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-06-27 19:27     ` Linus Torvalds
2017-06-27 20:53       ` Kees Cook
2017-06-27 21:16       ` Olof Johansson
2017-06-27 21:36         ` Linus Torvalds
2017-06-27 23:10           ` Serge E. Hallyn
2017-06-28  0:09             ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-06-28  0:14               ` Linus Torvalds
2017-06-28  0:26                 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-06-28  3:54                   ` Stephen Hemminger
     [not found]                 ` <CAFhKne-o0S8fMo_XD_aUk2Rf7VbDhgO+PT_bjnM-9WpKfnWBvw@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]                   ` <CAFhKne8FE=17wNdp=Svf2Z2tADok6htfYqTABEiZUrCOyeMaYg@mail.gmail.com>
2017-06-28 13:35                     ` Matthew Wilcox
2017-06-28 17:56                 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-06-29 10:02                   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-06-28  0:11             ` Linus Torvalds
2017-06-29 10:23           ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-06-28 12:58     ` Dan Carpenter
2017-06-30 17:11   ` Steven Rostedt [this message]
2017-06-30 17:52   ` Darren Hart
2017-06-30 17:58     ` Darren Hart
2017-07-01 17:24     ` Hannes Reinecke
2017-06-27 20:41 ` Kees Cook
2017-07-06 14:40 ` Dan Carpenter
2017-07-06 14:41   ` [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH 1/2] kconfig: add a silent option to conf_write() Dan Carpenter
2017-07-06 15:08     ` Steven Rostedt
2017-07-06 14:42   ` [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH 2/2] kconfig: new command line kernel configuration tool Dan Carpenter
2017-07-07  5:55     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2017-07-07  9:02       ` Dan Carpenter
2017-07-09  3:56         ` Linus Walleij
2017-07-09  8:31           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-07-09 17:03             ` Randy Dunlap
2017-07-09 19:43               ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-07-09 17:32             ` Frank Rowand
2017-07-10  9:44     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-07-10 11:15       ` Dan Carpenter
2017-07-06 16:41   ` [Ksummit-discuss] [TECH TOPIC] is Kconfig a bit hard sometimes? Linus Torvalds
2017-07-06 17:11     ` Randy Dunlap
2017-07-07 11:36     ` Dan Carpenter
2017-07-10 17:15       ` Luck, Tony
2017-07-10 17:33         ` Alexandre Belloni
2017-07-10 18:28           ` Linus Torvalds
2017-07-10 19:44             ` Randy Dunlap
2017-07-11  6:21             ` Valentin Rothberg
2017-07-06 21:19   ` Laurent Pinchart

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