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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
To: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
Cc: ksummit <ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [MAINTAINERS SUMMIT] Developing across multiple areas of the kernel
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2017 06:39:49 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170629133949.GA19691@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGXu5j+bpi6-krTYwN_BdhFnHZRYpQwhtc9Z-kcRerm+t-Xyfw@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 04:01:34PM -0700, Kees Cook wrote:
> If there is time at the summit, I'd like to quickly discuss best
> practices for the mechanics of doing security defense development in
> the kernel. This has always been a bit tricky and I've done my best to
> navigate it, but it still feels like there are glitches that could be
> ironed out with a more clearly declared process (or ownership).

It's pretty hard as a general rule.  As someone who does a lot of
cross-subsystem work I usually try to find a "lead" subsystem to
funnel thing through, and if there isn't one yet I create it
(see the new uuid and dma-mappings ones for the next merge window).

> made in sources maintained outside the kernel itself (i.e. ACPICA)
> before they'd be accepted back into the kernel. Making tree-wide

And that's crap we just need to stop.  While I'm too some extent
ok with maintainers having their own little quirky requirements
on code style and organization that's simply a step too much.
Every subsystem in the kernel MUST accept suitable patches on the
proper, open mailing list.

And for ACPICA in general I think we'd reduce code size by 50%
and the bug amount by probably the same by stopping to treat it
special and apply the normal kernel rules to it.

  reply	other threads:[~2017-06-29 13:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-06-28 23:01 Kees Cook
2017-06-29 13:39 ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2017-06-30 13:02   ` Daniel Vetter
2017-06-29 16:36 ` James Bottomley
2017-06-29 16:51   ` Kees Cook
2017-06-29 17:42     ` James Bottomley
2017-06-29 17:52       ` Kees Cook
2017-06-29 18:20         ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-06-29 19:07           ` Linus Torvalds
2017-06-29 20:16           ` Kees Cook
2017-06-29 20:27             ` Stephen Rothwell
2017-07-14  4:04               ` Leon Romanovsky
2017-07-14  9:54                 ` Greg KH
2017-07-14 10:29                   ` Leon Romanovsky
2017-07-14 14:10                     ` Andrew Lunn
2017-07-14 15:05                       ` Mark Brown
2017-07-14 15:51                         ` Leon Romanovsky
2017-07-14 16:20                           ` Mark Brown
2017-07-14 15:35                       ` Leon Romanovsky
2017-07-14 15:43                         ` James Bottomley
2017-07-14 16:08                           ` Leon Romanovsky
2017-07-14 16:18                         ` Andrew Lunn
2017-07-14 16:28                           ` Bart Van Assche

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