On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 06:25:03PM +0200, Pavel Machek wrote:

> > The problem I have in general, is that I got this development board
> > at DesignWest in 2012, and already the Qualcomm people are sort of
> > indicating to me that they consider the product so ancient that it
> > is

> The problem is called "Qualcomm". Other vendors actually care about
> mainline and support their boards longer. (TI).

> And yes, that means I'm running hardware from 2009. And yes, TI
> probably regrets me getting that hardware :-).

It's hardly just Qualcomm here, by and by large it's everyone outside of
the general market embedded and verticals that care about long shelf
lives.

> > the case for Android devices. Having upstream drivers and using the
> > kernel ABI as the hardware abstraction is the key to achieving that,
> > and it's weird this is so hard for some to see. Google definitely have
> > a role to play here.

> Well, Android already has ABI abstraction layer, even projects like
> Jolla and Ubuntu phone use it, IIRC, basically running Android in
> chroot.

That's not exactly a stable ABI...