From: Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky.work@gmail.com>
To: Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz <b.zolnierkie@samsung.com>
Cc: "ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org"
<ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org>,
Linux Fbdev development list <linux-fbdev@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [TECH TOPIC] printk redesign
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2017 22:06:39 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170627130639.GA1886@jagdpanzerIV.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <10423619.jNvHD4M0jW@amdc3058>
On (06/23/17 11:07), Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz wrote:
> On Thursday, June 22, 2017 03:48:34 PM Daniel Vetter wrote:
> > On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 3:42 PM, Daniel Vetter <daniel.vetter@ffwll.ch> wrote:
> > > Tears pretty much guaranteed, and after a few hacks from Alan&me I
> > > concluded that the only way to fix this is to at least partially
> > > rewrite fbdev (a dead subsystem, so no one's volunteering), with the
> > > risk that you get to revert it all because someone is indeed relying
> > > on that super-flexible module loading order sequence. The simplest fix
> > > would probably be to make the entire fbdev->fbcon setup depency a
> > > hard-coded function call, or maybe at most a one-shot symbol_get
> > > attempt.
> >
> > I did once hash out a plan how to fix this with the least amount of pain:
> >
> > 1. Merge a patch to build the fbcon support into the overall fb.ko
> > module, so that the dynamic loading nonsense is essentially disabled,
> > and fbcon becomes a Kconfig/compile-time only option, no longer a
> > runtime-selectable thing.
> >
> > 2. Wait 1 year and pray that no one reports a regression. If you're
> > unlucky, try to fence them of with a runtime option to disable fbcon.
> >
> > 3. Rip out the notifier nonsense and replace it by direct function
> > calls. You can only do that once 1. won't be reverted anymore.
> >
> > 4. Push the console_lock donw the callchains until it's again at the
> > right spots, auditing all the other stuff meanwhile to make sure the
> > locking is still correct.
> >
> > 5. Apply your patch to make console_lock sane.
> >
> > Adding fbdev maintainers and lists just.
>
> Your plan sounds good to me.
cool.
I'm willing to help. let's coordinate.
-ss
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Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-06-19 5:21 Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-19 6:22 ` Hannes Reinecke
2017-06-19 14:39 ` Steven Rostedt
2017-06-19 15:20 ` Andrew Lunn
2017-06-19 15:54 ` Hannes Reinecke
2017-06-19 16:17 ` Andrew Lunn
2017-06-19 16:23 ` Mark Brown
2017-06-20 15:58 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-20 16:44 ` Luck, Tony
2017-06-20 17:11 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-20 17:27 ` Mark Brown
2017-06-20 23:28 ` Steven Rostedt
2017-06-21 7:17 ` Hannes Reinecke
2017-06-21 11:12 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-22 14:06 ` Steven Rostedt
2017-06-23 5:43 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-23 13:09 ` Steven Rostedt
2017-06-21 12:23 ` Petr Mladek
2017-06-21 14:18 ` Andrew Lunn
2017-06-23 8:46 ` Petr Mladek
2017-06-21 16:09 ` Andrew Lunn
2017-06-23 8:49 ` Petr Mladek
2017-07-19 7:35 ` David Woodhouse
2017-07-20 7:53 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-20 16:09 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-19 16:26 ` Steven Rostedt
2017-06-19 16:35 ` Andrew Lunn
2017-06-24 11:14 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-06-24 14:06 ` Andrew Lunn
2017-06-24 22:42 ` Steven Rostedt
2017-06-24 23:21 ` Andrew Lunn
2017-06-24 23:26 ` Linus Torvalds
2017-06-24 23:40 ` Steven Rostedt
2017-06-26 11:16 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-24 23:48 ` Al Viro
2017-06-25 1:29 ` Andrew Lunn
2017-06-25 2:41 ` Linus Torvalds
2017-06-26 8:46 ` Jiri Kosina
2017-07-19 7:59 ` David Woodhouse
2017-06-20 15:56 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-20 18:45 ` Daniel Vetter
2017-06-21 9:29 ` Petr Mladek
2017-06-21 10:15 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-22 13:42 ` Daniel Vetter
2017-06-22 13:48 ` Daniel Vetter
2017-06-23 9:07 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2017-06-27 13:06 ` Sergey Senozhatsky [this message]
2017-06-23 5:20 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-19 23:46 ` Josh Triplett
2017-06-20 8:24 ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-06-20 14:36 ` Steven Rostedt
2017-06-20 15:26 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-22 16:35 ` David Howells
2017-07-19 6:24 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-07-19 6:25 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-07-19 7:26 ` Daniel Vetter
2017-07-20 5:19 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
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