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From: Leon Romanovsky <leon@kernel.org>
To: Hannes Reinecke <hare@suse.com>
Cc: "ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org"
	<ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [TECH TOPIC] (PCI) driver rebinding
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2017 08:37:43 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170626053743.GY1248@mtr-leonro.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c0ebdd10-5c7c-dfb1-9bc8-c6c632ac1396@suse.com>

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On Sun, Jun 25, 2017 at 05:39:34PM +0200, Hannes Reinecke wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> here's a thing which came up recently on the SCSI ml:
>
> How should we handle devices with _several_ possible drivers?
>
> Case in point are some HBAs, for which the plan is to have distinct
> drivers for either target or initiator mode.
>
> There are several options how this could be handled:
> - Have a default driver, and manually rebind the 'real' driver once the
> configuration could be read and acted upon.
> That would have the drawback that we do an initialisation in the 'wrong'
> mode, and later have to switch configuration. Which at best will 'just'
> induce some pointless initialisation, at worst confuse attached devices
> to no end. Not to mention introducing lots of interesting races with
> udev and systemd
> - Inhibit default binding, and load the correct drivers after the
> configuration has been read.
> Would be a deviation from the original scenario (where the driver are
> bound/loaded as soon as the device becomes available). Has the drawback
> that one would need to inhibit automatic bindings on the _bus_ level (ie
> PCI), which will be even more interesting.
> - Add some bus-specific (or even general?) device configuration syntax,
> which would allow to pass in the required configuration from the
> command-line (or reasonably early, anyway). For which we need a syntax
> first, anyway. And need to figure out if we can have an abstract syntax
> or would need to have a bus- (or even driver-) specific configuration.

It sounds very similar to devlink, despite that tool was originally introduced
to net and intended for switches, it works on PCI level with BUS_NAME/BUS_ADDRESS
as an handle.

https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=bfcd3a46617209454cfc0947ab093e37fd1e84ef

>
> So no easy way out here, and it might be worth having input from other
> parties. And some might have similar problems (just thinking of
> usb-modeswitch ...), so there might be some synergies to be had.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Hannes
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-06-26  5:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-06-25 15:39 Hannes Reinecke
2017-06-25 21:38 ` Matthew Wilcox
2017-06-26  5:54   ` Hannes Reinecke
2017-06-26  4:59 ` Greg KH
2017-06-26  6:05   ` Hannes Reinecke
2017-06-26  6:57     ` Greg KH
2017-06-26  5:37 ` Leon Romanovsky [this message]
2017-06-26  5:44 ` Bart Van Assche
2017-06-26 17:40 ` Lee Duncan

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