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From: Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>
To: Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@s-opensource.com>
Cc: ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [TECH TOPIC] printk redesign
Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2017 16:06:59 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170624140659.GM4875@lunn.ch> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170624081411.58b4fb6a@vento.lan>

On Sat, Jun 24, 2017 at 08:14:11AM -0300, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
> Em Mon, 19 Jun 2017 12:26:51 -0400
> Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org> escreveu:
> 
> > On Mon, 19 Jun 2017 17:20:55 +0200
> > Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > > > 4) All other kernel information that's not critical at all, and perhaps
> > > > doesn't even need to be serialized. At least, not against the above.
> > > > This could be cached, and outputted at a later time than when the
> > > > printk() was called.    
> > > 
> > > Developers machine probably have different requirements to production
> > > machines. When debugging during code development, i want the debug
> > > output to be in the correct order, independent of the level. If you
> > > are going to cause reordering, you might want to add a sequence number
> > > to each output, so it is possible to put it back into the correct
> > > order. And it needs to be clear when output is out of order.  
> 
> Even for developers, ensuring the correct order is a must.
> 
> If someone reports me a bug that the Kernel crashed because of some
> driver, I would ask him to enable debug messages and send the crash
> logs with it enabled. 

We also need a clear indication that ordering is broken and should not
be trusted when we get a crash log from some random user.

   Andrew

  reply	other threads:[~2017-06-24 14:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-06-19  5:21 Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-19  6:22 ` Hannes Reinecke
2017-06-19 14:39   ` Steven Rostedt
2017-06-19 15:20     ` Andrew Lunn
2017-06-19 15:54       ` Hannes Reinecke
2017-06-19 16:17         ` Andrew Lunn
2017-06-19 16:23         ` Mark Brown
2017-06-20 15:58           ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-20 16:44             ` Luck, Tony
2017-06-20 17:11               ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-20 17:27                 ` Mark Brown
2017-06-20 23:28                   ` Steven Rostedt
2017-06-21  7:17                     ` Hannes Reinecke
2017-06-21 11:12                     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-22 14:06                       ` Steven Rostedt
2017-06-23  5:43                         ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-23 13:09                           ` Steven Rostedt
2017-06-21 12:23                     ` Petr Mladek
2017-06-21 14:18                       ` Andrew Lunn
2017-06-23  8:46                         ` Petr Mladek
2017-06-21 16:09                       ` Andrew Lunn
2017-06-23  8:49                         ` Petr Mladek
2017-07-19  7:35                   ` David Woodhouse
2017-07-20  7:53                     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-20 16:09         ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-19 16:26       ` Steven Rostedt
2017-06-19 16:35         ` Andrew Lunn
2017-06-24 11:14         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-06-24 14:06           ` Andrew Lunn [this message]
2017-06-24 22:42             ` Steven Rostedt
2017-06-24 23:21               ` Andrew Lunn
2017-06-24 23:26                 ` Linus Torvalds
2017-06-24 23:40                   ` Steven Rostedt
2017-06-26 11:16                     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-24 23:48                   ` Al Viro
2017-06-25  1:29                     ` Andrew Lunn
2017-06-25  2:41                       ` Linus Torvalds
2017-06-26  8:46                         ` Jiri Kosina
2017-07-19  7:59                           ` David Woodhouse
2017-06-20 15:56     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-20 18:45     ` Daniel Vetter
2017-06-21  9:29       ` Petr Mladek
2017-06-21 10:15       ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-22 13:42         ` Daniel Vetter
2017-06-22 13:48           ` Daniel Vetter
2017-06-23  9:07             ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2017-06-27 13:06               ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-23  5:20           ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-19 23:46 ` Josh Triplett
2017-06-20  8:24   ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-06-20 14:36     ` Steven Rostedt
2017-06-20 15:26       ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-22 16:35 ` David Howells
2017-07-19  6:24 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-07-19  6:25   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-07-19  7:26     ` Daniel Vetter
2017-07-20  5:19       ` Sergey Senozhatsky

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