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From: Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>
To: Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	"ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org"
	<ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [TECH TOPIC] printk redesign
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2017 10:46:19 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170623084619.GG23337@pathway.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170621141808.GE27585@lunn.ch>

On Wed 2017-06-21 16:18:08, Andrew Lunn wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 02:23:04PM +0200, Petr Mladek wrote:
> > On Tue 2017-06-20 19:28:58, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> > > I've thought about this a little too.
> > > 
> > > I would like printk to have per-cpu buffers. Then we don't even need to
> > > store the CPU number, that would be explicit by which buffer the data
> > > is stored in.
> > > 
> > > The one thing that is needed, is the consumer. In ftrace, it's whatever
> > > reads the buffer, which is usually user space, but can be the kernel
> > > (see sysctl-z). But there's only one consumer at a time.
> > > 
> > > I was thinking about a new design for printk. Similar to ftrace, but
> > > different.
> > > 
> > > 1) have per cpu buffers, that are lockless. Writes happen immediately,
> > > but the output happens later.
> > 
> > My problems with per-CPU buffers is that:
> > 
> >     + I am not sure how big per-CPU buffers we could afford.
> >       Any non-balanced usage increases the chance of loosing
> >       messages.
> > 
> >     + The information is scattered and extra tools are needed
> >       to locate the messages and sort them.
> 
> Considering this from the Embedded world, during board bring up, you
> might be poking around in memory using a JTAG interface because your
> serial driver is not working yet, or the kernel is crashing before the
> serial port is up and running. The in-memory format needs to be quite
> simple to read. I don't know how early_printk() factors into
> this. Maybe that solves this problem?

Early printk just directly writes the messages on an early console.
They are not stored anywhere.

Best Regards,
Petr

  reply	other threads:[~2017-06-23  8:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-06-19  5:21 Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-19  6:22 ` Hannes Reinecke
2017-06-19 14:39   ` Steven Rostedt
2017-06-19 15:20     ` Andrew Lunn
2017-06-19 15:54       ` Hannes Reinecke
2017-06-19 16:17         ` Andrew Lunn
2017-06-19 16:23         ` Mark Brown
2017-06-20 15:58           ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-20 16:44             ` Luck, Tony
2017-06-20 17:11               ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-20 17:27                 ` Mark Brown
2017-06-20 23:28                   ` Steven Rostedt
2017-06-21  7:17                     ` Hannes Reinecke
2017-06-21 11:12                     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-22 14:06                       ` Steven Rostedt
2017-06-23  5:43                         ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-23 13:09                           ` Steven Rostedt
2017-06-21 12:23                     ` Petr Mladek
2017-06-21 14:18                       ` Andrew Lunn
2017-06-23  8:46                         ` Petr Mladek [this message]
2017-06-21 16:09                       ` Andrew Lunn
2017-06-23  8:49                         ` Petr Mladek
2017-07-19  7:35                   ` David Woodhouse
2017-07-20  7:53                     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-20 16:09         ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-19 16:26       ` Steven Rostedt
2017-06-19 16:35         ` Andrew Lunn
2017-06-24 11:14         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-06-24 14:06           ` Andrew Lunn
2017-06-24 22:42             ` Steven Rostedt
2017-06-24 23:21               ` Andrew Lunn
2017-06-24 23:26                 ` Linus Torvalds
2017-06-24 23:40                   ` Steven Rostedt
2017-06-26 11:16                     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-24 23:48                   ` Al Viro
2017-06-25  1:29                     ` Andrew Lunn
2017-06-25  2:41                       ` Linus Torvalds
2017-06-26  8:46                         ` Jiri Kosina
2017-07-19  7:59                           ` David Woodhouse
2017-06-20 15:56     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-20 18:45     ` Daniel Vetter
2017-06-21  9:29       ` Petr Mladek
2017-06-21 10:15       ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-22 13:42         ` Daniel Vetter
2017-06-22 13:48           ` Daniel Vetter
2017-06-23  9:07             ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2017-06-27 13:06               ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-23  5:20           ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-19 23:46 ` Josh Triplett
2017-06-20  8:24   ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-06-20 14:36     ` Steven Rostedt
2017-06-20 15:26       ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-22 16:35 ` David Howells
2017-07-19  6:24 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-07-19  6:25   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-07-19  7:26     ` Daniel Vetter
2017-07-20  5:19       ` Sergey Senozhatsky

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