From: Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>
To: Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
"ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org"
<ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [TECH TOPIC] printk redesign
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2017 16:18:08 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170621141808.GE27585@lunn.ch> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170621122304.GC1538@pathway.suse.cz>
On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 02:23:04PM +0200, Petr Mladek wrote:
> On Tue 2017-06-20 19:28:58, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> > I've thought about this a little too.
> >
> > I would like printk to have per-cpu buffers. Then we don't even need to
> > store the CPU number, that would be explicit by which buffer the data
> > is stored in.
> >
> > The one thing that is needed, is the consumer. In ftrace, it's whatever
> > reads the buffer, which is usually user space, but can be the kernel
> > (see sysctl-z). But there's only one consumer at a time.
> >
> > I was thinking about a new design for printk. Similar to ftrace, but
> > different.
> >
> > 1) have per cpu buffers, that are lockless. Writes happen immediately,
> > but the output happens later.
>
> My problems with per-CPU buffers is that:
>
> + I am not sure how big per-CPU buffers we could afford.
> Any non-balanced usage increases the chance of loosing
> messages.
>
> + The information is scattered and extra tools are needed
> to locate the messages and sort them.
Considering this from the Embedded world, during board bring up, you
might be poking around in memory using a JTAG interface because your
serial driver is not working yet, or the kernel is crashing before the
serial port is up and running. The in-memory format needs to be quite
simple to read. I don't know how early_printk() factors into
this. Maybe that solves this problem?
Andrew
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-06-21 14:19 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-06-19 5:21 Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-19 6:22 ` Hannes Reinecke
2017-06-19 14:39 ` Steven Rostedt
2017-06-19 15:20 ` Andrew Lunn
2017-06-19 15:54 ` Hannes Reinecke
2017-06-19 16:17 ` Andrew Lunn
2017-06-19 16:23 ` Mark Brown
2017-06-20 15:58 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-20 16:44 ` Luck, Tony
2017-06-20 17:11 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-20 17:27 ` Mark Brown
2017-06-20 23:28 ` Steven Rostedt
2017-06-21 7:17 ` Hannes Reinecke
2017-06-21 11:12 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-22 14:06 ` Steven Rostedt
2017-06-23 5:43 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-23 13:09 ` Steven Rostedt
2017-06-21 12:23 ` Petr Mladek
2017-06-21 14:18 ` Andrew Lunn [this message]
2017-06-23 8:46 ` Petr Mladek
2017-06-21 16:09 ` Andrew Lunn
2017-06-23 8:49 ` Petr Mladek
2017-07-19 7:35 ` David Woodhouse
2017-07-20 7:53 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-20 16:09 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-19 16:26 ` Steven Rostedt
2017-06-19 16:35 ` Andrew Lunn
2017-06-24 11:14 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-06-24 14:06 ` Andrew Lunn
2017-06-24 22:42 ` Steven Rostedt
2017-06-24 23:21 ` Andrew Lunn
2017-06-24 23:26 ` Linus Torvalds
2017-06-24 23:40 ` Steven Rostedt
2017-06-26 11:16 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-24 23:48 ` Al Viro
2017-06-25 1:29 ` Andrew Lunn
2017-06-25 2:41 ` Linus Torvalds
2017-06-26 8:46 ` Jiri Kosina
2017-07-19 7:59 ` David Woodhouse
2017-06-20 15:56 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-20 18:45 ` Daniel Vetter
2017-06-21 9:29 ` Petr Mladek
2017-06-21 10:15 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-22 13:42 ` Daniel Vetter
2017-06-22 13:48 ` Daniel Vetter
2017-06-23 9:07 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2017-06-27 13:06 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-23 5:20 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-19 23:46 ` Josh Triplett
2017-06-20 8:24 ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-06-20 14:36 ` Steven Rostedt
2017-06-20 15:26 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-22 16:35 ` David Howells
2017-07-19 6:24 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-07-19 6:25 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-07-19 7:26 ` Daniel Vetter
2017-07-20 5:19 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
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