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From: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
To: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
Cc: ksummit <ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [TECH TOPIC] printk redesign
Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2017 10:36:52 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170620103652.7719b715@gandalf.local.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAK8P3a2XgV7E7H=hv6MyjhG7K0VaOSVFRgFfS17Npu7d6XXw1Q@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, 20 Jun 2017 10:24:43 +0200
Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de> wrote:


> > It'd be nice if, when building a kernel with CONFIG_PRINTK disabled, the
> > full format-string handling wasn't compiled in to handle snprintf and
> > family. In particular, some of the kernel-specific %p format-string
> > modifiers only get used when printing to a user, never when formatting a
> > string for machine consumption. I can think of a few different ways to
> > address that, but I'd love to see that taken into account in the
> > requirements for a printk redesign.  
> 
> I don't think that's realistic, given how many special formats we have
> nowadays, see the discussion about the 'struct rtc_time' format recently,
> which was definitely meant for external ABIs.

I think it may be possible, but it is a separate project from the
printk one. One thing, tracing requires it, and does not require
printk. What you could do is have CONFIG_VSPRINTF and have anything that
uses it select it as well. Which would be printk, tracing, etc.

But the printk mess in general is a big enough issue to try to solve
than to bring this up at this time.

-- Steve

  reply	other threads:[~2017-06-20 14:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-06-19  5:21 Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-19  6:22 ` Hannes Reinecke
2017-06-19 14:39   ` Steven Rostedt
2017-06-19 15:20     ` Andrew Lunn
2017-06-19 15:54       ` Hannes Reinecke
2017-06-19 16:17         ` Andrew Lunn
2017-06-19 16:23         ` Mark Brown
2017-06-20 15:58           ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-20 16:44             ` Luck, Tony
2017-06-20 17:11               ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-20 17:27                 ` Mark Brown
2017-06-20 23:28                   ` Steven Rostedt
2017-06-21  7:17                     ` Hannes Reinecke
2017-06-21 11:12                     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-22 14:06                       ` Steven Rostedt
2017-06-23  5:43                         ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-23 13:09                           ` Steven Rostedt
2017-06-21 12:23                     ` Petr Mladek
2017-06-21 14:18                       ` Andrew Lunn
2017-06-23  8:46                         ` Petr Mladek
2017-06-21 16:09                       ` Andrew Lunn
2017-06-23  8:49                         ` Petr Mladek
2017-07-19  7:35                   ` David Woodhouse
2017-07-20  7:53                     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-20 16:09         ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-19 16:26       ` Steven Rostedt
2017-06-19 16:35         ` Andrew Lunn
2017-06-24 11:14         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-06-24 14:06           ` Andrew Lunn
2017-06-24 22:42             ` Steven Rostedt
2017-06-24 23:21               ` Andrew Lunn
2017-06-24 23:26                 ` Linus Torvalds
2017-06-24 23:40                   ` Steven Rostedt
2017-06-26 11:16                     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-24 23:48                   ` Al Viro
2017-06-25  1:29                     ` Andrew Lunn
2017-06-25  2:41                       ` Linus Torvalds
2017-06-26  8:46                         ` Jiri Kosina
2017-07-19  7:59                           ` David Woodhouse
2017-06-20 15:56     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-20 18:45     ` Daniel Vetter
2017-06-21  9:29       ` Petr Mladek
2017-06-21 10:15       ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-22 13:42         ` Daniel Vetter
2017-06-22 13:48           ` Daniel Vetter
2017-06-23  9:07             ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2017-06-27 13:06               ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-23  5:20           ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-19 23:46 ` Josh Triplett
2017-06-20  8:24   ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-06-20 14:36     ` Steven Rostedt [this message]
2017-06-20 15:26       ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-22 16:35 ` David Howells
2017-07-19  6:24 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-07-19  6:25   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-07-19  7:26     ` Daniel Vetter
2017-07-20  5:19       ` Sergey Senozhatsky

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