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> Another gripe of mine wrt. big vs. small is that almost all vendor
> driver updates come in the form of "30+ patches to update the driver to
> version XYZ". Often a week before the merge window. And then they wonder
> why nobody reviews them. Well, duh. That's a huge chunk of time for
> somebody to commit.

> Anyway. Just being the devil's advocate here. It just seems there's a
> consistent "maintainers are bad/lazy/unresponsive" theme going on. But
> for better or for worse, patch submitters are often presenting their
> work in ways that are completely indigestible.

What works well with netdev is that the maintainers simply NACK the
patches within a day and ask them to be submitted in smaller batches.

In my opinion, part of being a Maintainer is educating patch
submitters how the process should work and how best to present their
work so that it can be reviewed. It takes a bit of effort, but the
returns are worth it.

	Andrew