From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1CF18B55 for ; Wed, 26 Apr 2017 14:51:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from shards.monkeyblade.net (shards.monkeyblade.net [184.105.139.130]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6AE323C for ; Wed, 26 Apr 2017 14:51:26 +0000 (UTC) Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2017 10:51:23 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <20170426.105123.1704205188006109179.davem@davemloft.net> To: broonie@kernel.org From: David Miller In-Reply-To: <20170426142149.vld4ahatg5xc6qsv@sirena.org.uk> References: <20170425165632.5qvc62j2ex3h6rgg@sirena.org.uk> <20170426142149.vld4ahatg5xc6qsv@sirena.org.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org, airlied@linux.ie, gregkh@linuxfoundation.org, James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com, dledford@redhat.com, Bart.VanAssche@sandisk.com, mingo@kernel.org Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] "Maintainer summit" invitation discussion List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , From: Mark Brown Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2017 15:21:49 +0100 > On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 03:47:13AM +0000, Bart Van Assche wrote: >> On 04/25/17 09:56, Mark Brown wrote: > >> > This comes up most years... is a discussion likely to come up with >> > anything new that's concretely actionable? > >> If priorities change over time and someone who had initially sufficient >> time to be a kernel maintainer and later on that changes that's >> something I can understand. But what I do not understand is if someone >> no longer has enough time to be a kernel maintainer why he or she does >> not look for help and e.g. asks someone who has the required skills and >> who is interested in this kind of work to become a co-maintainer? > > You'd have to ask the relevant people... based on the times I've looked > at problematic subsystems it often seems that either people have > completely vanished for whatever reason or there's very little other > interest in the subsystem so no obvious candidates. I'm not saying that > there isn't a problem, I'm just saying that it's not new and it doesn't > seem like the situation changed much. Often people just don't want to let go and give up "control" of something they've watched over for a long period of time. I think we suffer from this a lot.