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From: Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>
To: Bart Van Assche <bart.vanassche@sandisk.com>
Cc: ksummit <ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org>,
	Dave Airlie <airlied@linux.ie>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>,
	Doug Ledford <dledford@redhat.com>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] "Maintainer summit" invitation discussion
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2017 17:56:32 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170425165632.5qvc62j2ex3h6rgg@sirena.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3f55980c-1e8d-c841-2555-472ed10eb2fc@sandisk.com>

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On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 09:02:12AM -0700, Bart Van Assche wrote:

> I noticed myself is that for some subsystems I contribute to (e.g.
> block, SCSI and RDMA) maintainers provide feedback about patches within
> a very reasonable time. For two other subsystems I contribute to it can
> take weeks or months before adequate feedback is provided. Sorry but I
> don't think that it is acceptable that it takes that long before
> feedback is provided and hence that this is a topic that deserves to be
> discussed during the maintainer summit.

This comes up most years...  is a discussion likely to come up with
anything new that's concretely actionable?

That said a related thing that feels like it's definitely a maintainer
summit thing is getting new things into the kernel that somehow sit
between maintainers (new subsystems being the most obvious example) - we
do have a gap where people will negatively review things but won't
either take them or positively review them which can go on for very long
periods with people being just ignored (or worse just getting new people
popping up every once in a while with negative comments).  That's
obviously offputting for submitters, and can be especially bad if it's
coupled with other stuff like people taking on board the derogatory
comments that often get made about some segments of the industry.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-04-25 16:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 135+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-04-18 18:59 Linus Torvalds
2017-04-18 19:50 ` Takashi Iwai
2017-04-18 20:13   ` Linus Torvalds
2017-04-18 20:21     ` Jiri Kosina
2017-04-18 20:36       ` Takashi Iwai
2017-04-18 20:29     ` Takashi Iwai
2017-04-18 20:33     ` Laura Abbott
2017-04-18 21:15     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-04-19 22:36       ` Jonathan Corbet
2017-04-19 22:41         ` Jiri Kosina
2017-04-19 23:36           ` Josh Triplett
2017-04-19 23:51             ` Jiri Kosina
2017-04-20  1:04               ` Josh Triplett
2017-04-20  7:38                 ` Jani Nikula
2017-04-20  5:23           ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-04-20 13:33             ` James Bottomley
2017-04-20 14:40               ` Alexey Dobriyan
2017-04-20 14:52                 ` Ingo Molnar
2017-04-20 14:47               ` Jonathan Corbet
2017-04-20 15:34                 ` James Bottomley
2017-04-20 11:25         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-04-19 15:37     ` Doug Ledford
2017-04-19 16:18       ` Linus Torvalds
2017-04-19 16:24         ` Doug Ledford
2017-04-19 18:11         ` Justin Forbes
2017-04-19 21:52           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-04-19 18:21         ` Laura Abbott
2017-04-20  8:31           ` Jani Nikula
2017-04-20 12:35             ` Mark Brown
2017-04-20 13:01               ` Jani Nikula
2017-04-21  8:41             ` Alexandre Belloni
2017-04-21 14:46               ` David Miller
2017-04-20  8:17         ` Jani Nikula
2017-04-20 10:59           ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2017-04-20 12:22             ` Jani Nikula
2017-04-20 13:03               ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2017-04-20 14:49             ` Mark Brown
2017-04-19 19:25     ` Laurent Pinchart
2017-04-19 19:40       ` Linus Torvalds
2017-04-19 19:45         ` Jens Axboe
2017-04-19 19:50         ` Laurent Pinchart
2017-04-19 19:55           ` James Bottomley
2017-04-20  8:26             ` Daniel Vetter
2017-04-20 13:25               ` James Bottomley
2017-04-25 16:02             ` Bart Van Assche
2017-04-25 16:38               ` Guenter Roeck
2017-04-25 16:56               ` Mark Brown [this message]
2017-04-26  3:47                 ` Bart Van Assche
2017-04-26  8:39                   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-04-26 14:21                   ` Mark Brown
2017-04-26 14:51                     ` David Miller
2017-04-26 15:15                       ` Mark Brown
2017-04-26  8:42               ` Dan Carpenter
2017-04-26 13:58                 ` Martin K. Petersen
2017-04-26 14:15                   ` Andrew Lunn
2017-04-26 15:42                     ` Martin K. Petersen
2017-04-26 14:31                   ` James Bottomley
2017-04-26 14:34                     ` Jiri Kosina
2017-04-26 14:43                       ` James Bottomley
2017-04-27  9:06                         ` Jani Nikula
2017-04-27 10:41                           ` Lee Jones
2017-04-27 11:02                             ` Hannes Reinecke
2017-04-27 14:17                               ` James Bottomley
2017-04-28  0:24                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-04-27 15:40                           ` Wolfram Sang
2017-04-26 15:02                 ` Bart Van Assche
2017-04-26 15:25                   ` James Bottomley
2017-04-26 15:36                     ` Mark Brown
2017-04-19 20:14           ` Josh Triplett
2017-04-19 21:30             ` Laurent Pinchart
2017-04-20  5:44             ` Julia Lawall
2017-04-20  8:54               ` Laurent Pinchart
2017-04-19 19:58         ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2017-04-19 20:20         ` Jiri Kosina
2017-04-18 20:00 ` Dave Airlie
2017-04-18 20:29   ` Laurent Pinchart
2017-04-18 20:38   ` Daniel Vetter
2017-04-18 20:56     ` Linus Torvalds
2017-04-18 21:39       ` Daniel Vetter
2017-04-20 19:02         ` Mark Brown
2017-04-18 20:06 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2017-04-18 20:11 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2017-04-18 20:21   ` Linus Torvalds
2017-04-25 15:09     ` Chris Mason
2017-04-19  0:22 ` Stephen Rothwell
2017-04-19 13:35   ` Shuah Khan
2017-04-19 20:20 ` James Bottomley
2017-04-19 20:27   ` Jiri Kosina
2017-04-20 10:24   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-04-21  8:51     ` Alexandre Belloni
2017-04-21  8:55       ` Julia Lawall
2017-04-21  8:59       ` Wolfram Sang
2017-04-21 14:45         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-04-21 10:34     ` Michael Ellerman
2017-04-21 15:06       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-04-21 23:37         ` James Bottomley
2017-04-20 16:01   ` Dan Williams
2017-04-21 11:07   ` Michael Ellerman
2017-04-21 17:06     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-04-21 23:19   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2017-04-19 20:26 ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-04-20  8:53   ` Daniel Vetter
2017-04-20 11:30     ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-04-20 13:46       ` Daniel Vetter
2017-04-24 14:02         ` Olof Johansson
2017-04-24 16:17         ` Linus Walleij
2017-04-24 17:29           ` Olof Johansson
2017-04-24 17:58             ` Mark Brown
2017-04-25  9:10           ` Lee Jones
2017-04-29 21:00             ` Daniel Vetter
2017-04-29 21:39               ` James Bottomley
2017-04-30 12:45                 ` Mark Brown
2017-04-30 19:12               ` Olof Johansson
2017-05-02  8:09               ` Lee Jones
2017-04-20 19:26     ` Mark Brown
2017-04-21 11:03   ` Alexandre Belloni
2017-04-24 13:14     ` Nicolas Ferre
2017-04-19 21:05 ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-04-19 21:32   ` Linus Torvalds
2017-05-23 17:58     ` Linus Torvalds
2017-05-23 18:17       ` Randy Dunlap
2017-05-23 18:47       ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-05-23 20:34         ` Linus Torvalds
2017-05-23 19:29       ` James Bottomley
2017-05-24  3:34       ` David Miller
2017-05-24  4:55         ` Linus Torvalds
2017-04-21  0:35 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-09-20 14:45 ` Doug Ledford
2017-09-20 15:07   ` James Bottomley
2017-09-20 15:22     ` Doug Ledford
2017-09-20 15:31       ` James Bottomley
2017-09-20 15:58         ` Doug Ledford
2017-09-20 22:55           ` Theodore Ts'o
2017-09-21  9:33             ` Leon Romanovsky
2017-09-21  4:54     ` James Morris

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