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From: Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>
To: Daniel Vetter <daniel.vetter@ffwll.ch>
Cc: ksummit <ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org>,
	Dave Airlie <airlied@linux.ie>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Doug Ledford <dledford@redhat.com>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] "Maintainer summit" invitation discussion
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2017 20:26:15 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170420192615.tflncgfggdgpyptf@sirena.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKMK7uF8to7iTSK9YgM0+KGbsj3_iMRjVHHd7zVa5Xzc5ftOGQ@mail.gmail.com>

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On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 10:53:54AM +0200, Daniel Vetter wrote:

> Related to this is that there's no single stop-shop for driver
> submissions for the arm platform stuff, but it's all split up. Fairly
> often that means at least one of the maintainers doesn't like your
> face, is on vacation or leave, burried for other reasons, or at least
> has slightly different ideas about what color the bikeshed needs to
> be. That makes contributions for people who just want to get their
> driver for a given platform in a pain.

> For non-arm-soc ecosystem drivers things seem a lot more relaxed and
> efficient and sensible.

I really think this is more of a cross subsystem issue than an ARM issue
- I'm seeing it come up just as much with x86 stuff these days as ARM
(more so at the minute, though I think that's just a bit of learning
that's going on).  x86 has historically been simpler hardware with less
interaction between blocks that triggers cross subsystem issues but
that's becoming less and less the case for the laptops.

Most of what I'm seeing these days goes pretty smoothly, and we're
reasonably well decoupled for the common cases so things can make
progress even if one bit does end up getting stuck.  AFAICT the main
issues are the normal maintainer scaling problems.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-04-20 19:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 135+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-04-18 18:59 Linus Torvalds
2017-04-18 19:50 ` Takashi Iwai
2017-04-18 20:13   ` Linus Torvalds
2017-04-18 20:21     ` Jiri Kosina
2017-04-18 20:36       ` Takashi Iwai
2017-04-18 20:29     ` Takashi Iwai
2017-04-18 20:33     ` Laura Abbott
2017-04-18 21:15     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-04-19 22:36       ` Jonathan Corbet
2017-04-19 22:41         ` Jiri Kosina
2017-04-19 23:36           ` Josh Triplett
2017-04-19 23:51             ` Jiri Kosina
2017-04-20  1:04               ` Josh Triplett
2017-04-20  7:38                 ` Jani Nikula
2017-04-20  5:23           ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-04-20 13:33             ` James Bottomley
2017-04-20 14:40               ` Alexey Dobriyan
2017-04-20 14:52                 ` Ingo Molnar
2017-04-20 14:47               ` Jonathan Corbet
2017-04-20 15:34                 ` James Bottomley
2017-04-20 11:25         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-04-19 15:37     ` Doug Ledford
2017-04-19 16:18       ` Linus Torvalds
2017-04-19 16:24         ` Doug Ledford
2017-04-19 18:11         ` Justin Forbes
2017-04-19 21:52           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-04-19 18:21         ` Laura Abbott
2017-04-20  8:31           ` Jani Nikula
2017-04-20 12:35             ` Mark Brown
2017-04-20 13:01               ` Jani Nikula
2017-04-21  8:41             ` Alexandre Belloni
2017-04-21 14:46               ` David Miller
2017-04-20  8:17         ` Jani Nikula
2017-04-20 10:59           ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2017-04-20 12:22             ` Jani Nikula
2017-04-20 13:03               ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2017-04-20 14:49             ` Mark Brown
2017-04-19 19:25     ` Laurent Pinchart
2017-04-19 19:40       ` Linus Torvalds
2017-04-19 19:45         ` Jens Axboe
2017-04-19 19:50         ` Laurent Pinchart
2017-04-19 19:55           ` James Bottomley
2017-04-20  8:26             ` Daniel Vetter
2017-04-20 13:25               ` James Bottomley
2017-04-25 16:02             ` Bart Van Assche
2017-04-25 16:38               ` Guenter Roeck
2017-04-25 16:56               ` Mark Brown
2017-04-26  3:47                 ` Bart Van Assche
2017-04-26  8:39                   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-04-26 14:21                   ` Mark Brown
2017-04-26 14:51                     ` David Miller
2017-04-26 15:15                       ` Mark Brown
2017-04-26  8:42               ` Dan Carpenter
2017-04-26 13:58                 ` Martin K. Petersen
2017-04-26 14:15                   ` Andrew Lunn
2017-04-26 15:42                     ` Martin K. Petersen
2017-04-26 14:31                   ` James Bottomley
2017-04-26 14:34                     ` Jiri Kosina
2017-04-26 14:43                       ` James Bottomley
2017-04-27  9:06                         ` Jani Nikula
2017-04-27 10:41                           ` Lee Jones
2017-04-27 11:02                             ` Hannes Reinecke
2017-04-27 14:17                               ` James Bottomley
2017-04-28  0:24                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-04-27 15:40                           ` Wolfram Sang
2017-04-26 15:02                 ` Bart Van Assche
2017-04-26 15:25                   ` James Bottomley
2017-04-26 15:36                     ` Mark Brown
2017-04-19 20:14           ` Josh Triplett
2017-04-19 21:30             ` Laurent Pinchart
2017-04-20  5:44             ` Julia Lawall
2017-04-20  8:54               ` Laurent Pinchart
2017-04-19 19:58         ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2017-04-19 20:20         ` Jiri Kosina
2017-04-18 20:00 ` Dave Airlie
2017-04-18 20:29   ` Laurent Pinchart
2017-04-18 20:38   ` Daniel Vetter
2017-04-18 20:56     ` Linus Torvalds
2017-04-18 21:39       ` Daniel Vetter
2017-04-20 19:02         ` Mark Brown
2017-04-18 20:06 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2017-04-18 20:11 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2017-04-18 20:21   ` Linus Torvalds
2017-04-25 15:09     ` Chris Mason
2017-04-19  0:22 ` Stephen Rothwell
2017-04-19 13:35   ` Shuah Khan
2017-04-19 20:20 ` James Bottomley
2017-04-19 20:27   ` Jiri Kosina
2017-04-20 10:24   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-04-21  8:51     ` Alexandre Belloni
2017-04-21  8:55       ` Julia Lawall
2017-04-21  8:59       ` Wolfram Sang
2017-04-21 14:45         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-04-21 10:34     ` Michael Ellerman
2017-04-21 15:06       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-04-21 23:37         ` James Bottomley
2017-04-20 16:01   ` Dan Williams
2017-04-21 11:07   ` Michael Ellerman
2017-04-21 17:06     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-04-21 23:19   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2017-04-19 20:26 ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-04-20  8:53   ` Daniel Vetter
2017-04-20 11:30     ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-04-20 13:46       ` Daniel Vetter
2017-04-24 14:02         ` Olof Johansson
2017-04-24 16:17         ` Linus Walleij
2017-04-24 17:29           ` Olof Johansson
2017-04-24 17:58             ` Mark Brown
2017-04-25  9:10           ` Lee Jones
2017-04-29 21:00             ` Daniel Vetter
2017-04-29 21:39               ` James Bottomley
2017-04-30 12:45                 ` Mark Brown
2017-04-30 19:12               ` Olof Johansson
2017-05-02  8:09               ` Lee Jones
2017-04-20 19:26     ` Mark Brown [this message]
2017-04-21 11:03   ` Alexandre Belloni
2017-04-24 13:14     ` Nicolas Ferre
2017-04-19 21:05 ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-04-19 21:32   ` Linus Torvalds
2017-05-23 17:58     ` Linus Torvalds
2017-05-23 18:17       ` Randy Dunlap
2017-05-23 18:47       ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-05-23 20:34         ` Linus Torvalds
2017-05-23 19:29       ` James Bottomley
2017-05-24  3:34       ` David Miller
2017-05-24  4:55         ` Linus Torvalds
2017-04-21  0:35 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-09-20 14:45 ` Doug Ledford
2017-09-20 15:07   ` James Bottomley
2017-09-20 15:22     ` Doug Ledford
2017-09-20 15:31       ` James Bottomley
2017-09-20 15:58         ` Doug Ledford
2017-09-20 22:55           ` Theodore Ts'o
2017-09-21  9:33             ` Leon Romanovsky
2017-09-21  4:54     ` James Morris

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