From: Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>
To: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>
Cc: ksummit <ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org>,
Dave Airlie <airlied@linux.ie>,
Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
Doug Ledford <dledford@redhat.com>,
David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] "Maintainer summit" invitation discussion
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2017 08:47:35 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170420084735.7ef1c3ef@lwn.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1492695238.27758.19.camel@HansenPartnership.com>
On Thu, 20 Apr 2017 06:33:58 -0700
James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com> wrote:
> I think it's worth discussing this. We accept a lot of patches because
> we can and because the change looks innocuous enough, but which don't
> actually have a tangible user visible benefit. Should we actually have
> a net benefit threshold test we apply?
With regard to the documentation patches, the intended tangible
user-visible benefit is to turn a jumbled mess of a documentation
directory into a set of coherent manuals that are aimed at and readily
accessible to our different audiences (kernel developers, system
administrators, application developers, etc. as appropriate).
If we had always tossed the SCSI subsystem source into a single directory
along with SCTP, user-mode Linux, perf, half of the TTY drivers, and all
filesystems written before the second Bush administration, it would
certainly make for easier muscle-memory access for those of us who think
back nostalgically to installing from floppies. But for some strange
reason we don't do that.
When code needs refactoring, we do so - when, as you said, there is a
tangible benefit. The same applies to directory organization. Though
that may not apply to Documentation/ since we never really got around to
an original factoring to refactor.
Anyway, you can see why I raised the issue. I think that this process is
improving the documentation, making it more accessible, and making more
people interested in improving it. But I have my hands plenty full of
other things and, if this work is really swimming against the current, it
would be good to know.
jon
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Thread overview: 135+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-04-18 18:59 Linus Torvalds
2017-04-18 19:50 ` Takashi Iwai
2017-04-18 20:13 ` Linus Torvalds
2017-04-18 20:21 ` Jiri Kosina
2017-04-18 20:36 ` Takashi Iwai
2017-04-18 20:29 ` Takashi Iwai
2017-04-18 20:33 ` Laura Abbott
2017-04-18 21:15 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-04-19 22:36 ` Jonathan Corbet
2017-04-19 22:41 ` Jiri Kosina
2017-04-19 23:36 ` Josh Triplett
2017-04-19 23:51 ` Jiri Kosina
2017-04-20 1:04 ` Josh Triplett
2017-04-20 7:38 ` Jani Nikula
2017-04-20 5:23 ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-04-20 13:33 ` James Bottomley
2017-04-20 14:40 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2017-04-20 14:52 ` Ingo Molnar
2017-04-20 14:47 ` Jonathan Corbet [this message]
2017-04-20 15:34 ` James Bottomley
2017-04-20 11:25 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-04-19 15:37 ` Doug Ledford
2017-04-19 16:18 ` Linus Torvalds
2017-04-19 16:24 ` Doug Ledford
2017-04-19 18:11 ` Justin Forbes
2017-04-19 21:52 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-04-19 18:21 ` Laura Abbott
2017-04-20 8:31 ` Jani Nikula
2017-04-20 12:35 ` Mark Brown
2017-04-20 13:01 ` Jani Nikula
2017-04-21 8:41 ` Alexandre Belloni
2017-04-21 14:46 ` David Miller
2017-04-20 8:17 ` Jani Nikula
2017-04-20 10:59 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2017-04-20 12:22 ` Jani Nikula
2017-04-20 13:03 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2017-04-20 14:49 ` Mark Brown
2017-04-19 19:25 ` Laurent Pinchart
2017-04-19 19:40 ` Linus Torvalds
2017-04-19 19:45 ` Jens Axboe
2017-04-19 19:50 ` Laurent Pinchart
2017-04-19 19:55 ` James Bottomley
2017-04-20 8:26 ` Daniel Vetter
2017-04-20 13:25 ` James Bottomley
2017-04-25 16:02 ` Bart Van Assche
2017-04-25 16:38 ` Guenter Roeck
2017-04-25 16:56 ` Mark Brown
2017-04-26 3:47 ` Bart Van Assche
2017-04-26 8:39 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-04-26 14:21 ` Mark Brown
2017-04-26 14:51 ` David Miller
2017-04-26 15:15 ` Mark Brown
2017-04-26 8:42 ` Dan Carpenter
2017-04-26 13:58 ` Martin K. Petersen
2017-04-26 14:15 ` Andrew Lunn
2017-04-26 15:42 ` Martin K. Petersen
2017-04-26 14:31 ` James Bottomley
2017-04-26 14:34 ` Jiri Kosina
2017-04-26 14:43 ` James Bottomley
2017-04-27 9:06 ` Jani Nikula
2017-04-27 10:41 ` Lee Jones
2017-04-27 11:02 ` Hannes Reinecke
2017-04-27 14:17 ` James Bottomley
2017-04-28 0:24 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-04-27 15:40 ` Wolfram Sang
2017-04-26 15:02 ` Bart Van Assche
2017-04-26 15:25 ` James Bottomley
2017-04-26 15:36 ` Mark Brown
2017-04-19 20:14 ` Josh Triplett
2017-04-19 21:30 ` Laurent Pinchart
2017-04-20 5:44 ` Julia Lawall
2017-04-20 8:54 ` Laurent Pinchart
2017-04-19 19:58 ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2017-04-19 20:20 ` Jiri Kosina
2017-04-18 20:00 ` Dave Airlie
2017-04-18 20:29 ` Laurent Pinchart
2017-04-18 20:38 ` Daniel Vetter
2017-04-18 20:56 ` Linus Torvalds
2017-04-18 21:39 ` Daniel Vetter
2017-04-20 19:02 ` Mark Brown
2017-04-18 20:06 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2017-04-18 20:11 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2017-04-18 20:21 ` Linus Torvalds
2017-04-25 15:09 ` Chris Mason
2017-04-19 0:22 ` Stephen Rothwell
2017-04-19 13:35 ` Shuah Khan
2017-04-19 20:20 ` James Bottomley
2017-04-19 20:27 ` Jiri Kosina
2017-04-20 10:24 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-04-21 8:51 ` Alexandre Belloni
2017-04-21 8:55 ` Julia Lawall
2017-04-21 8:59 ` Wolfram Sang
2017-04-21 14:45 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-04-21 10:34 ` Michael Ellerman
2017-04-21 15:06 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-04-21 23:37 ` James Bottomley
2017-04-20 16:01 ` Dan Williams
2017-04-21 11:07 ` Michael Ellerman
2017-04-21 17:06 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-04-21 23:19 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2017-04-19 20:26 ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-04-20 8:53 ` Daniel Vetter
2017-04-20 11:30 ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-04-20 13:46 ` Daniel Vetter
2017-04-24 14:02 ` Olof Johansson
2017-04-24 16:17 ` Linus Walleij
2017-04-24 17:29 ` Olof Johansson
2017-04-24 17:58 ` Mark Brown
2017-04-25 9:10 ` Lee Jones
2017-04-29 21:00 ` Daniel Vetter
2017-04-29 21:39 ` James Bottomley
2017-04-30 12:45 ` Mark Brown
2017-04-30 19:12 ` Olof Johansson
2017-05-02 8:09 ` Lee Jones
2017-04-20 19:26 ` Mark Brown
2017-04-21 11:03 ` Alexandre Belloni
2017-04-24 13:14 ` Nicolas Ferre
2017-04-19 21:05 ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-04-19 21:32 ` Linus Torvalds
2017-05-23 17:58 ` Linus Torvalds
2017-05-23 18:17 ` Randy Dunlap
2017-05-23 18:47 ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-05-23 20:34 ` Linus Torvalds
2017-05-23 19:29 ` James Bottomley
2017-05-24 3:34 ` David Miller
2017-05-24 4:55 ` Linus Torvalds
2017-04-21 0:35 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-09-20 14:45 ` Doug Ledford
2017-09-20 15:07 ` James Bottomley
2017-09-20 15:22 ` Doug Ledford
2017-09-20 15:31 ` James Bottomley
2017-09-20 15:58 ` Doug Ledford
2017-09-20 22:55 ` Theodore Ts'o
2017-09-21 9:33 ` Leon Romanovsky
2017-09-21 4:54 ` James Morris
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