From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D7AF5948 for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2016 09:57:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.free-electrons.com (down.free-electrons.com [37.187.137.238]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 224B3AF for ; Tue, 30 Aug 2016 09:57:50 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2016 11:57:37 +0200 From: Maxime Ripard To: Greg KH Message-ID: <20160830095737.GC18605@lukather> References: <20160826193331.GA29084@jra3> <87inunxf14.fsf@ebb.org> <20160827162655.GB27132@kroah.com> <20160829112426.GE7612@lukather> <20160829115018.GA16353@kroah.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="3siQDZowHQqNOShm" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20160829115018.GA16353@kroah.com> Cc: "Bradley M. Kuhn" , Linus Torvalds , ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [CORE TOPIC] GPL defense issues List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , --3siQDZowHQqNOShm Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Greg, On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 01:50:18PM +0200, Greg KH wrote: > > On Sat, Aug 27, 2016 at 06:26:55PM +0200, Greg KH wrote: > > > Someone in a reddit thread about this email conversation said, in try= ing > > > to quote Linus, something along the lines of "the nuclear option shou= ld > > > have been done to Allwinner a long time ago". And that proved my poi= nt > > > exactly. Allwinner was a pain for a very long time. But as develope= rs, > > > and through the efforts of a lot of people at the Linux Foundation and > > > Linaro, Allwinner is now a contributor to the kernel, and actively > > > sponsors developers to write GPLv2 code for their chips. > >=20 > > While I generally agree with you on this topic, this is simply not > > true. > >=20 > > As the Allwinner SoC maintainer, I never received any patch from > > someone either from the Linux Foundation or Linaro. And to the best of > > my knowledge, I'm not aware of anyone being paid by Allwinner to work > > on the kernel. >=20 > You wouldn't have gotten anything from the LF (we don't have many > developers as you know), but I thought that Allwinner was part of > Linaro, is that not correct? They used to yes. However, even though I don't really how Linaro works internally, my understanding was that being part of Linaro doesn't imply that you have engineers assigned. It's probably related to some level of membership. Anyway, like I was saying, no one from Linaro ever contributed something meaningful (except some cross-tree patches, and the usual "maintainance" patches). > > Allwinner is not a pain anymore because a few hobbyists started > > working on the kernel to improve the situation. >=20 > Really? How did the work for the Chip computer come about? That's an > Allwinner processor, right? It is. But it was built on what the community did (ie, the hardware is =66rom Allwinner, the software is not). Maxime --=20 Maxime Ripard, Free Electrons Embedded Linux and Kernel engineering http://free-electrons.com --3siQDZowHQqNOShm Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJXxViRAAoJEBx+YmzsjxAgrjIQAMD7ggBe7ZOMGtUvUq5sPaaq hZznkM+BroJGRbU96D1jRJHPEHnA/nj+G5djYjHvWr89XYQ7Dx0fHNj9uQzk/bh6 cSpHcVz/f3qOsOPNrs9EMALxUeUf+FRh3RJN7iV62vfizT7A6aQyLUXVeBMLcKwU Z/xuX2xm933zf+jiyArN9cZvWOMreYobt/JkmYzkC4J1vkANhc+iDmMk1Wm9J1OQ PYCf+Tyo8f1C2v2mGx/cmKlZO3iqV3+W8gSp2bIDc8+ro01UAUUNP3vndI1qNO0u a+UkEgw6ZIOCKcGY/H1cU/HkcE6xiigsw11yTVJoWBnSaQc3Ts/fL8C1e3JSMHJx 9NG778+FK9kfVGmGcAnSrvZptKmMpB4DGF/pg/3OYlyM5Hjmm9fejj9o0BHKGgYG J2syQSIIdoxbUmDpIJ5tbZr//+/otpQjmBcqmGMd4sKwC+o0T8utzMY76iKzGfQb ZS+UhR8slzCQrQgm7emRcVyyxCAThgr1leWdJyyGvDe7cupXVMJxqzyaGEz9C+IB TQAjL1/DmnOrQVd7NJwuHriw7uTQ3d0O3Fyy/2RzUbJIXmedB16kk/UsyILX1HDq vEU0tBmsdoKyW9cftbhdYKjL0zu715iRyZmUyEp25cZ+MO3HnkG4EKUfD8W095cs TUvLStUbnCFeDdHurEes =LYu3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --3siQDZowHQqNOShm--