From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A849F258 for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2016 23:05:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bh-25.webhostbox.net (bh-25.webhostbox.net [208.91.199.152]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AE30C16D for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2016 23:05:41 +0000 (UTC) Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2016 16:05:38 -0700 From: Guenter Roeck To: Linus Torvalds Message-ID: <20160829230538.GA6379@roeck-us.net> References: <20160827183550.GB1601@katana> <20160828074706.GB1370@kroah.com> <1472492553.32433.108.camel@redhat.com> <20160829213128.fr3enaeso6r5s2ki@thunk.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Cc: "Bradley M. Kuhn" , ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [CORE TOPIC] GPL defense issues List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 02:59:29PM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote: > > "Guys, you really ARE the reason the GPL is failing, and people are > starting new projects with other licenses. Because they care about > better technology, not about your agenda. And you're making the GPL > look bad" > Unfortunately, I have seen that happen a lot recently. GPLv3 and all the talk about heavy-handed enforcement is driving people away from GPL. At my previous employer, where I and others spent a lot of time convincing senior management that Open Source is a good thing, most new projects ended up using BSD or Apache licenses to avoid the pitfalls of GPL - and because the teams responsible for the projects wanted their software to be successful. GPL is doing a pretty good job ensuring its own demise. Surgery successful, patient dead, as people say in Germany. Guenter