From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7EC07483 for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2016 20:19:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pokefinder.org (sauhun.de [89.238.76.85]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E1565A7 for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2016 20:19:14 +0000 (UTC) Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2016 22:19:04 +0200 From: Wolfram Sang To: Linus Torvalds Message-ID: <20160829201904.GF1610@katana> References: <20160827183550.GB1601@katana> <20160828074706.GB1370@kroah.com> <1472492553.32433.108.camel@redhat.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="H4SyuGOnfnj3aJqJ" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Cc: "Bradley M. Kuhn" , ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [CORE TOPIC] GPL defense issues List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , --H4SyuGOnfnj3aJqJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline > But we put the blame on very different things - I at least partly very > much do blame the "culture" that goes with the GPL. Corporate users > do see the hostility towards commercial use that we have in some > quarters. I don't support the hostility, yet I'd like to mention that it mostly doesn't come out of nowhere. There _are_ bad companies besides the good ones and they cause frustration. For example, if I want to watch a DVD, it takes more than a minute until I get to the actual content, because there is all text about what I am not allowed to do and how I can be punished. Yet, the DVD player I am using runs Linux with code I wrote. And I can't get the sources to the device driver for that codec chip I'd like to have. I can see that it might be irrelevant for Linux as a project, but on the individual level, this is frustrating and can easily scare talent away. I think this should be seen, too - for the sake of mutual understanding. > We should strive to make companies *like* the GPL, and encourage > exactly the kinds of things you mention. Yes! --H4SyuGOnfnj3aJqJ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJXxJi4AAoJEBQN5MwUoCm2pvcQAJHMCLrqbuIsI7outMqhKLDX UMMuuEPojQOrPZujjgFU8cTsmHiwuBT326vCDAyGYPnmr0ZE/je/yNfw0zmEekur 6Qj3PlcVNvW5UdrzdGbFBkj67L88WCvp80l4qBVuy2L/3Uykm+Rp6NHc8uuYFc28 YM3rUKPgwAY/nlj1PJDvHdMDLcM7btCxjftVb0sJbFKVTyDbmbM9h3gk/eOToprt o5BQBVpkrUH4aPHSEd1cRFElfvd9GXSursz0z6C7MyA3szV5WRULzksQJCrSTgIj 0FqQmq6ojhd6OvBkCZj9dYFuIio2ifzHheK6vEduBJ5hG2XREAYNJGQZfsntSAco x4R+IMx54h2AkpCulKtHLmkUwpFGD9cCAfnub9haUIsMCvUbDbw4zafeFl02FuHA Timr/ljhLMNaiEvs7kT5h+mlGtceG5MV8/SQ1BzMCMwppiTjKAlEs/g+IBZBePkz C2A0mUabBpew65K1PuS/5A9PpFA6w/xp1xJ8T5oB1Yiso7przDxdTWC4w1vz6rMX QfnzChmQSYh4fmoCJSGmPdDIVrClv9l9wAuxevcaT5chqi5JYX0FHsBd9V0eW9y3 0HnS4XXqEGM9xkUslyGpgWu6CrlCWEmxInajXS2N1ZSYObB3FwLryFAU9sD4LbVI T7J+Vd2krY/dnWxia1PT =6Ojb -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --H4SyuGOnfnj3aJqJ--