From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B75DE305 for ; Sun, 28 Aug 2016 22:58:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from protestant.ebb.org (protestant.ebb.org [50.56.179.12]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 30B89EB for ; Sun, 28 Aug 2016 22:58:47 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2016 15:54:54 -0700 From: "Bradley M. Kuhn" To: ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org Message-ID: <20160828225454.GA19927@ebb.org> References: <20160826193331.GA29084@jra3> <87inunxf14.fsf@ebb.org> <20160827162655.GB27132@kroah.com> <87bn0dnc6f.fsf@ebb.org> <1472348609.2440.37.camel@HansenPartnership.com> <20160828042454.GA8742@jeremy-acer> <20160828125542.7oejzcbpeozkrq3k@thunk.org> <87y43gx3jq.fsf@ebb.org> <20160828195805.z4tyu3bcabpfyqpw@thunk.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20160828195805.z4tyu3bcabpfyqpw@thunk.org> Cc: Linus Torvalds Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [CORE TOPIC] GPL defense issues List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Theodore Ts'o wrote earlier today: > The reason why it's fair game to compare your statements with statements > made a few months ago is for the same reason why the Daily Show played back > old clips of politicians. I'd be delighted to go through a political vetting process with those of you that want that, but I suggest it's better to move that off-list. We could later produce the email thread as one unit for people to read if they like. Contact me off list if you'd like to do that. (As such, this will be my last on-list response to anything related to material from my past talks, etc.) I do wonder, however, if vetting me will actually yield the results you want. Many already pointed out that (a) Conservancy's actions are on behalf of our coalition, at their behest, and also that (b) Karen Sandler is my boss. So, I answer to both the coalition *and* her in any actual work that I might do. While I admit that I love talking about my own opinions on things (and it seems that Ted enjoys watching videos of my opinions -- BTW, I'd certainly enjoy the "Daily Show with Ted Ts'o" more than "with Trevor Noah"), I really wonder if most folks on the list, or in the larger Linux developer community, care about *my* words as opposed to the *coalition's* actual actions, which I agree do deserve substantial attention and I encourage you to vet them. > Well, people who live near battlegrounds often have a different opinion > about sending in the troops compared to generals back in Washington > D.C. whore are ordering in the drone strikes. ... Linus Torvalds wrote elsewhere in the thread: >> But the people who then see proprietary software as "evil" I don't believe any company, organization, entity or person mentioned in this thread is evil, including the ones that produce proprietary software. I certainly want a world where proprietary software doesn't exist, but proprietary software is not evil; calling it such is as hyperbolic as comparing enforcing the GPL to drone strikes. -- -- bkuhn ======================================================================== Become a Conservancy Supporter today: https://sfconservancy.org/supporter